[Tlhingan-hol] tlhIngan Hol SeH Paramount Pictures 'e' maq

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Lawrence can better explain the special license that Paramount (Viacom, actually) has granted the KLI. We have the right to use the language.

Years ago, one of our members, HetaQ, wrote a book called "Secret Fighting Arts of The Warrior Race, Volume 1 - betel yIqel”. He tried to get Paramount to work with him on it and they refused. When he did it anyway, including a disclaimer saying that it had nothing to do with Paramount, their lawyers objected strongly enough that they got an injunction to block publication.

He already had published the book. Some of us have copies. He burned the rest of them, publicly. I have the cover framed on my wall — a gift for having assisted with translations of the Klingon sections. Qov also contributed.

It didn’t matter if Paramount would have won or lost. HetaQ would have run out of money from legal fees long before Paramount exhausted its legal options. That’s the nature of what is essentially a plutocratic legal system. If you have enough money, you win.

Paramount has enough money.

Likely, the film crew who wants to make a Klingon-like movie doesn’t.

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> On Mar 14, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm at kth.se> wrote:
> 
> Indeed. Even months before the lawsuit, a CBS representative said that "CBS has not authorized, sanctioned or licensed this project in any way, and this has been communicated to those involved. We continue to object to professional commercial ventures trading off our property rights and are considering further options to protect these rights."
> 
> Then, in the original complaint in December, CBS/Paramount's representatives claim that "The Axanar Works are intended to be professional quality productions that, by Defendants’ own admission, unabashedly take Paramount’s and CBS’s intellectual property and aim to 'look and feel like a true Star Trek movie.'", and that they "incorporated numerous elements of Star Trek Copyrighted Works".
> They also write that "The Axanar Works are substantially similar to, and unauthorized derivative works of, Plaintiffs' Star Trek television series and movies, in contravention of the copyright laws of the United States."
> 
> In their response pleading, Axanar Productions' representatives write that "while Plaintiffs allege ownership of 'thousands' of copyrights relating to Star Trek episode and films, Plaintiffs fail to specify which of those copyrights Defendants have allegedly infringed."
> 
> This new document is not the complaint in itself; it is simply detailing the elements of these productions which show that Axanar is derivative of and substantially similar to their copyrighted works.
> The use of Klingon is just one of those examples, which the press have decided to put in the headline.
> 
> It's difficult to claim control over a language, and I doubt anybody would actually care enough to do so, unless we start making million-dollar Star Trek films.
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Lieven <levinius at gmx.de>
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 20:53
> To: tlhingan-hol at stodi.digitalkingdom.org
> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] tlhIngan Hol SeH Paramount Pictures 'e' maq
> 
> Am 14.03.2016 um 14:38 schrieb mayql qunenoS:
>> tlhIngan Hol lo'meH chaw' mub ghaj'a' tetlhvam
>> does this list possess the legal right to use klingon ?
> 
> I am not a lawyer, but that presented list only seems to claim the
> copyright of using klingon language inside a Star Trek related film.
> (one among many other copyright infringements, by the way)
> 
> It doesn't mean that nobody may ever use klingon again.
> 
> (A bit more poetic: It's a language and it's spread in all our minds.
> They can't stop it anymore. ;-) )
> 
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