[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ba'

[mayql qunenoS]

thank you all for taking the time to  reply ;

jIH:
> quSvo' yIba' 'ej yIqeqchoH !
> get up from that chair and start training !

indeed I don't know why I wrote the {yIba'}.. I must have gotten
confused there, trying to use another word and placing the {ba'}
instead.

jIH:
> HoD quSDaq bIba'meH bI'umbe'bej.
> you aren't qualified to sit at the captain't chair.

another problem I always had, was the understanding of the {-meH}.
after reading yours and lojmIt tI'wI' nuv's comments, I think I
understood (finally) that the {-meH} means, that in order for
something to happen, something else needs to take place.

jIH:
> qaStaHvIS jaj naQ ba'taHchugh vaj Huch Dabaj not 'e' Dachavbe'.
> if you're always sitting during the entire day, then you will never
> achieve to earn money.

while I was writing this, I remembered that we had commented on the
{jaj naQ} some time in the past, but I couldn't recall what we had
actually said. thank you for reminding me. thank you too for pointing
out the double-negative issue. this was an influence from greek, where
we constantly use double-negatives.

hopefully I won't repeat the same mistakes !

mayqel mIv Hurgh qunnoq

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:35 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh
<lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good suggestion. I also wince at the idea that the purpose of your being unqualified is to sit in the captain’s chair.
>
> Just to share another optional approach:
>
> HoD quS Daba’meH DIb Daqotlhbe’bej.
>
> You definitely do not deserve the privilege of sitting in the captain’s chair.
>
> ‘ej pa’ Daba’chugh, qapaymoHchu’...
>
> lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh
> Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably
>
>
>
>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 2:13 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>>
>>> HoD quSDaq bIba'meH bI'umbe'bej.
>>> you aren't qualified to sit at the captain't chair.
>>
>> This runs into the ol' {QIpmeH Qatlh'a'} problem: you're not being unqualified IN ORDER to sit in the captain's shair. I still don't know if Okrand considers this a valid way to say it, or if he just makes the same mistake from time to time. If it's valid he hasn't explained it yet.
>>
>> You can work around the problem in many ways. Here's one:
>>
>>   HoD quSDaq bIba' net chaw'be' bI'umbe'bejmo'
>>   you are not permitted to sit in the captain's chair because you are
>>   certainly not qualified
>
>
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