[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: joq

[mayql qunenoS]

SuStel:
> Presumably he finished causing this to happen; use {joqmoHpu'} or {joqmoHta'}.
> I'd choose the latter for its sense of achieving a goal.
> Hence, the causing is completed; use {joqmoHpu'} or {joqmoHta'}.

Thank you for pointing this out ; now that I'm thinkink about it, I
have a major problem when it comes to using aspect suffixes. In theory
I can *feel* the difference between a completed action, a continuous
one, one that's progressing towards a known goal etc. But when it
comes to using them, I tend to use them as a substitute for past
tense. So, I tend to shy away from them. let alone that I don't know
whether in greek we use tenses or aspect (!?!?!?), so when I think in
greek I don't know if what I'm thinking is a "tense" or an "aspect".
It sounds ridiculous, I know.. And to make things worst, I don't know
how to fix this problem..

jIH:
> targhmey DIjeychugh, jatlh vIghro'mey la' Dun, vaj targh lommey
> DungDaq joqwI'maj wIjoqmoH.
SuStel:
> Are the cats brave, or is their commander brave? Your English
> doesn't make that clear. If we substitute {yoH} for {Dun}, your Klingon says it's the
> commander that's brave.

yes,actually its the commander who is the brave one.

SuStel:
> qatlh dog DamuS?

meq law'mo'..
because of many reasons..

1. roS'eghmo' 'ej 'up bIH
    because they lick themselves and are disgusting
2. puchDaq lujaHmo' tawDaq bIHtaHvIS 'ej 'up bIH
    because they go to the toilet while they are at the street and
they are disgusting
3. nuvpu' chopmo'
    because they bite people
4. qam Do Dujmey tlha'mo' 'ej lIghpu' rIQmoH
    because they chase bicycles and injure riders
5. He'So'mo' bIH
    because they stink
6. tlhabbe'mo' bIH
   because they are not independent
7. bolmo' bIH 'ej 'up bIH
    because they drool and are disgusting
8. vIghro'mey tlha'mo'
    because they chase cats
9. puqpu' tlha'mo'
    because they chase children
10. puH DujDaq porghchaj bIQ 'uchHa'
      because they piss on cars

mayqel mIv Hurgh qunnoq
you haven't experienced shakespear unless you read him in the original klingon

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:20 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 3/1/2016 11:10 AM, mayql qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> be'nI'Daj qo' charghpu'DI' voDleH mIgh, be'nI'Daj vaS'a'Daq joqwI'Daj
>> joqmoH ghaH.
>> as soon as the evil emperor conquered his sister realm, he made his
>> flag wave at his sister's great hall.
>
>
> Presumably he finished causing this to happen; use {joqmoHpu'} or
> {joqmoHta'}. I'd choose the latter for its sense of achieving a goal.
>
>> targhmey DIjeychugh, jatlh vIghro'mey la' Dun, vaj targh lommey
>> DungDaq joqwI'maj wIjoqmoH.
>> if we defeat the dogs, said the brave cats' commander, we will make
>> our flag wave over their corpses.
>
>
> I think you meant {yoH} instead of {Dun}.
>
> Are the cats brave, or is their commander brave? Your English doesn't make
> that clear. If we substitute {yoH} for {Dun}, your Klingon says it's the
> commander that's brave.
>
>> QaSDaj yoHmoHmeH joqwI'chaj joqmoH vIghro'mey la'.
>> in order to make his troops brave the cat commander made their flag
>> flutter.
>
>
> Again, I assume you're not saying it's his policy to make their flag
> flutter, but rather that here is an incident in which he made their flag
> flutter. I also assume he set the flag fluttering, rather than stood there
> and waved it himself. Hence, the causing is completed; use {joqmoHpu'} or
> {joqmoHta'}.
>
>> one day dogs will be extinct ; I dream of that day
>
> qatlh dog DamuS?
>
> --
> SuStel
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>
>
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