[Tlhingan-hol] {-meH}ed nouns

[mayql qunenoS]

I'm not labeling this as KLBC, since this is a continuation of a
previous mail, in which the subject of {-meH}ed nouns came up.

So..

qen, tlhIngan loghDaq buq'IrwIj vIchIjtaHvIS, narghpu' wanI' Huj ;
recently, while I was navigating my cube through Klingon space, a
strange phenomenon appeared ;

tlhopDaq buq'IrwIj 'et, So'Ha'pu' Duj'e' Sovbe'lubogh.
in front of my cube's bow, an unknown vessel decloacked.

vIleghDI', jIja'egh *purpose clause* 'oH buvDaj'e'
as soon as I saw it, I told myself its classification is "purpose clause".

'ach Hujqu' nochmeywIj De' 'ej vIlajlaHbe'.
however my sensors' data were very strange and I wasn't able to accept them.

Do' So'Ha' Qov voragh je Dujmey 'ej De' 'ut mulI'.
luckily Qov and voragh ships decloacked and transmitted me the
necessary data. (is the prefix trick here correct ?)

Studying voragh's examples, I have to say that I came in a state of
bliss seeing this alternate use of {-meH}, for the following reason..

So far, the only ways I knew of combining a noun and a verb were two :
either noun-be verb, or be verb-noun. However many were the times I
wanted to combine a noun and a non-be verb, without of course knowing
what to do. To confess my sin, those times I would just go on and use
the verb as if it were a be-verb, but I would *feel* that this was
wrong. And as I have said before, the goal is to learn proper Klingon
and not my personal version of it..

So, loving the whole concept of {-meH}ed nouns, and the new found
freedom they provide, I would be more that happy to shout in my bridge
"tractor beam ! now !" as shinzon shouted when he saw Picard and Data
escaping the Scimitar. I would be more than happy to assimilate them,
however before I do, I have three questions :

1. Can I use the {-meH}ed noun construct, as if it were *normal*
subject/object depending on the occassion ? for instance am I able to
say {muHIv ngongmeH Duj} <the experimental ship attacks me> and
{ngongmeH Duj vIHIv} <I attack the experimental ship> ? I believe that
this would be correct, but I'm asking in order to make certain.

2. Studying voragh's examples I noticed that almost always the
{-meH}ed verb-noun construction is actually (zero prefix){-meH}ed
verb-noun construction. But then I saw this : {jIpaSqu'mo' narghpu'
qaSuchmeH 'eb} <I was too late to visit you.>. Processing this in my
mind, I read it as <because I was very late-it escaped-in order I
visit YOU-the opportunity>. So, this makes me come to the conclusion,
that depending on the occasion, I CAN have a verb prefix before the
{-meH}ed verb (other than the zero one). right ? For instance if I
wanted to say <weapon in order to kill me> I could write {muHoHmeH
nuH} right ? I will not ask about verb suffixes on the {-meH}ed verb,
because I saw the examples {Qapchu'meH 'aqroS chuq} and {chenmoHlu'meH
Daq}. So, I'm assuming that aside the usual restrictions in regard to
the placing of suffixes on verbs, there are no new/special
restrictions, as far as the verb of the {-meH}ed verb-noun
construction is concerned. Please correct me if this is a wrong
assumption.

3. This is (or may be) a rather controversial point. I have noticed,
that always we are using the definitions found in tkd, kgt and
everywhere else in the most "strict" way. For instance we will use the
{rup} to mean <to fine, tax> and not to mean <to place excessive
burden in a non-financial context>. We will not use {rup} to say that
"the high velocity was taxing on the engines". So far, so good. But
suddenly this comes along :

QongmeH Duj
sleeper ship

So, now I will ask.. Does "sleeper ship" describe a vessel, where I
will go with my pillow and teddy bear, in order to sleep ? So, why do
we use the verb {Qong} for this purpose ? The answer will come, that
it is (I believe) a canon example. So, logic now would dictate, that
whenever a verb is {-meH}ed, its definition could be expanded beyond
the *traditional/strict* interpretation we are accustomed to using.
I'm quite certain that this is not the case, however I think that this
is an interesting thing to discuss..

cpt qunnoq