[Tlhingan-hol] Why Klingon is perfect

[mayql qunenoS]

hehehe ! seriously ! I didn't understand anything ! In my defense I
would like to say though, that this may be because I'm very sleepy
right now !

ok, lets take things slowly..

first the last sentences :

bInep = you are lying
bIpegh neH = you're only keeping something secret

Daq pegh luDabbogh nIrurbogh tlhIngan Hol
ghojqangwI'pu' yI'ang!
you reveal the ones who are willing to learn Klingon who resemble you,
who (they) reside at a secret location (!?!?)

Hov ghajbe'bogh ram rur pegh ghajbe'bogh jaj.
this is the proverb "a day without secrets.."

chay' raS DachenmoH?
how do you create the table ?

qatlh wISop?
why do we eat it ?

tlhuHchugh vay' yIn.
if anyone breathes, he lives

ghojmeH taj Hev loDHom.
in order to learn the boy received the knife

Hutlogh qama' bIj 'avwI'.
the guard punished the prisoner nine times

vIHoH vIneH.
I want to kill him

ok,these were easy ones. So, lets go back to the original message..

pIpol.
we keep/save you.

chay' tlhIngan Hol Datu'?
how do you discover/find/observe/notice Klingon?

qatlh DaghojchoH?
why do you learn it ?

lI'qa'laHchugh pISuqmeH mIw, vaj
wa' SaDlogh wIlo' vIneH.
if it is able to be useful again in order to get you the procedure
(???), then I want that we use it a thousand times (???).

actually this last sentence is the one I meant, when I wrote that I
didn't understand anything..

maybe its because of this jay' sleepiness. I really need to get to bed now..

cpt qunnoq

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 7:42 PM,  <qov at kli.org> wrote:
>> > pIpol.
>> > chay' tlhIngan Hol Datu'? qatlh DaghojchoH? lI'qa'laHchugh pISuqmeH
>> > mIw, vaj wa' SaDlogh wIlo' vIneH.
>>
>> I didn't understand anything.
>
> bInep.  bIpegh neH.  Daq pegh luDabbogh nIrurbogh tlhIngan Hol
> ghojqangwI'pu' yI'ang!  Hov ghajbe'bogh ram rur pegh ghajbe'bogh jaj.
>
> But if you're serious, let's figure out what you need to learn in order to
> understand it. Do you have any problem with any of these sentences?
>
> chay' raS DachenmoH?
> qatlh wISop?
> tlhuHchugh vay' yIn.
> ghojmeH taj Hev loDHom.
> Hutlogh qama' bIj 'avwI'.
> vIHoH vIneH.
>
> - Qov
>
>
>
>
>>
>> qunnoq
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 7:07 PM,  <qov at kli.org> wrote:
>> > pIpol.
>> >
>> > chay' tlhIngan Hol Datu'? qatlh DaghojchoH? lI'qa'laHchugh pISuqmeH
>> > mIw, vaj wa' SaDlogh wIlo' vIneH.
>> >
>> > - Qov
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: mayql qunenoS [mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: January 21, 2016 3:02
>> >> To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
>> >> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Why Klingon is perfect
>> >>
>> >> In this mail I will describe, why Klingon is perfect as a conlang.
>> >> Not
>> > "why it is
>> >> perfect according to my opinion" but rather "why it is perfect.
> period."
>> >>
>> >> Because of the following reasons:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Because it can't be translated by a non Klingonist. I don't think
>> >> that
>> > a non-
>> >> Klingonist could just fire up whatever app, and just read anything
>> >> that
>> > might
>> >> be written in Klingon. Unless someone puts in the effort of actually
>> > learning
>> >> Klingon, he cannot translate a Klingon text. End of story.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Because a non-Kilngonist cannot even read it.
>> >>
>> >> 3. Because it has a vocabulary of only 2700 words approximately (give
>> >> or
>> > take,
>> >> depending on what someone would consider a word) ; This means that
>> >> someone who wishes to learn, has actually a shot at managing to learn
>> >> the entire vocabulary. If it had a vocabulary of 10.000 words, who
>> >> would be
>> > able
>> >> to learn them all ?
>> >>
>> >> 4. Because the vocabulary of Klingon is actually a vocabulary that
>> > consists of
>> >> words one can use in everyday discussion ; If we exclude words as
>> >> {DarSeq} or <to use the (whatever) toe> almost every word of the
>> >> vocabulary can be used in everyday discussions. This is definitely
>> >> not the case with
>> > conlangs
>> >> such as Vulcan, which have an enormous database of words (in Vulcan's
>> >> case scientific), still of no use to everyday needs.
>> >>
>> >> 5. Because with only 2700 words, one can say almost anything he needs
>> >> in every speech.
>> >>
>> >> 6. Because one has the actual choice, of choosing whether to write in
>> > pIqaD
>> >> or english characters.
>> >>
>> >> 7. Because pIqaD can actually be writen by hand, in contrast to other
>> >> conlangs' characters which are extremely difficult - even impossible
>> >> - to
>> > write
>> >> by hand.
>> >>
>> >> 8. Because with relatively few pages of grammar, one can express
>> >> almost anything he desires.
>> >>
>> >> 9. Because it doesn't burder the mind of the student Klingonist with
>> > having to
>> >> remember details that aren't needed, in order to express himself. For
>> >> example, why would I need to concern myself with tenses, when I can
>> >> just use a time stamp and express exactly the same meaning ?
>> >>
>> >> 10. Because it has a single authority (Okrand) who decides what is
>> >> right
>> > and
>> >> what is wrong. In this way the entire community can have set rules,
>> >> thus being able to communicate with one another through the use of
>> >> Klingon, which is the ultimate goal of every language.
>> >>
>> >> 11. Because with the use of prefixes and suffixes we can express a
>> >> lot, without having to actually write a lot. Even the ancient
>> >> Spartans (the
>> > closest
>> >> equivalent to Klingons) hated the use of many and unnecessary words.
>> >>
>> >> 12. Because it can be spoken in an either aggressive or mild
>> >> (Azetbur's
>> >> speech) way.
>> >>
>> >> ..I know that any other conlang-ist would have a lot to say in order
>> >> to
>> > defend
>> >> his own, chosen conlang. So, the final reason why Klingon is perfect,
>> >> is
>> > rather
>> >> simple :
>> >>
>> >> 13. jIjatlhmo' pup tlhIngan Hol !
>> >>
>> >> cpt qunnoq
>> >>
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