[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: {-mo'} noun suffix vs. {-mo'} verb suffix

mayql qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 01:54:30 PST 2016


jIH:
> vavlI' mIpmo', bInguq or bInguq, vavlI' mIpmo'.
> because of your rich father you're arrogant.
Qov:
> muj cha'DIch. Because {vavlI' mIp} is a noun phrase "your rich father" it
> can only precede the clause it modifies. Yes, -mo' is on a erb, but it's
> only on a verb because it has followed the rule and migrated to the verb
> that modifies vavlI'.

Thank you for telling me this ; I had the misconception that the -mo'
noun suffix, as soon as it migrated to a verb, it would start behaving
as a verb suffix !

cpt qunnoq
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:01 PM,  <qov at kli.org> wrote:
>> Ha'DIbaHlIjmo' jIvem.
>> because of your dog I woke up.
>
> maj.
>
>> QIpmo' Ha'DIbaHlIj, jIvem or jIvem, QIpmo' Ha'DIbaHlIj.
>> because your dog is stupid, I woke up.
>
> maj.
>
>> vavlI'mo' bImIp.
>> because of your father you're rich.
>
> maj.
>
>> vavlI' mIpmo', bInguq or bInguq, vavlI' mIpmo'.
>> because of your rich father you're arrogant.
>
> muj cha'DIch. Because {vavlI' mIp} is a noun phrase "your rich father" it
> can only precede the clause it modifies. Yes, -mo' is on a erb, but it's
> only on a verb because it has followed the rule and migrated to the verb
> that modifies vavlI'.
>
> vavlI' mIpmo' bInguq.
> or
> bInguq mIpmo' vavlI'. = You are arrogant because your father is rich.
> See the difference?
>
>> puH DujlIjmo' jIrIQ.
>> because of your car I'm injured.
>>
>> muqIpmo' puH DujlIj, jIrIQ or jIrIQ, muqIpmo' puH DujlIj.
>> because your car hit me I am injured.
>
> maj.
>
>> If at the above sentences there are mistakes, please do tell me. Also, the
>> way I understand this a noun bearing a -mo' must always come on the
>> beginning of a sentence, whereas a verb with a -mo' can be placed either
> at
>> the beginning or the end. If I understand this wrong, please correct me.
>
> Your understanding is correct, with the little adjustment above, for when
> the verb is acting as an adjective.  Also lojmIt tIwI' nuv personally
> prefers that verb clauses with -mo' also go before the main clause. There's
> no rule at all, he just likes it that way, so when I'm writing to make him
> happy, I do that.  :-)
>
> - Qov
>
>
>
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