[Tlhingan-hol] Type 5 on first noun

[lojmIttI'wI'nuv]

It’s already been pointed out that this is not a complete sentence, and so likely not a noun-noun construction. Likely, he wanted to be able to express the difference between “The feast at Qam-Chee” and “At the feast of Qam-Chee”.

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> On Feb 5, 2016, at 11:15 AM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh at wizage.net> wrote:
> 
> Is that just a location and a separate noun and not a noun-noun construction? 
> 
> The feast doesn't belong to Qam-Chee, it's happening at Qam-Chee. It's like he dropped a verb from the sentence:
> 
> qamchIyDaq (qaS) 'uQ'a' - the feast {happened) at Qam-Chee
> 
> qurgh
> 
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
> Here's a chapter heading from paq'batlh:
> 
>    qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a'
>    The Feast at Qam-Chee
> 
> This is not the first instance of Okrand violating the rule in TKD that the first noun of a noun-noun construction not have a type 5 suffix on it.
> 
> I have a theory as to what's going on: the suffix is allowed as long as the phrase is not part of a verbal clause. We've only ever seen this violation in standalong noun phrases. (And let's face reality: it's because Okrand is translating from standalone English noun phrases that include prepositions, and he's forgotten the rule.)
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