[Tlhingan-hol] Interesting {je}

[SuStel]

On 2/4/2016 2:21 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:
> SuStel:
>> I just noticed an interesting line in paq'batlh:
>>
>>      QIStaqDaq cholonDI' jIyIn
>>         DaH jIyIn je
>>         SoHvaD jIchup
>>
>>      I am alive as I was
>>         When you left me at Kri'stak,
>>         I have an offer to make.
>>
>> The use of {je} here isn't its usual function of a noun conjunction. The
>> things it seems to be conjoining are {QIStaqDaq cholonDI'} and {DaH},
>> i.e., time contexts, neither of which are nouns.
>
> I don't see this as problematic.  There are three clauses:
>
>     <QIStaqDaq cholonDI'> <jIyIn> <DaH jIyIn je>
>     <When you abandoned me at Kri'stak> <I was alive> <I am also alive now>
>
> {je} isn't linking time contexts, it's modifying the third verb:  I was alive then; I'm also alive now".
>
> TKD 55:  The noun conjunction {je} has an additional function: when it follows a verb, it means "also, too": {qaleghpu' je} "I also saw you. I saw you too". As in English, the meaning of such sentences is ambiguous: "I and others saw you" or "I saw you and others". The exact meaning is determined by context.

Except {je} does not mean <Someone does a thing> <Someone does a 
different thing also>. Conjoining verbs like that is what {'ej} is for. 
See my reply to André Müller on this.

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