[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vem

[qurgh lungqIj]

tI'ang is the name of the ship:

qItI'nga' Duj tI'ang => K'tinga Ship T'ong

This information should help you make sense of the time marker (from
http://klingonska.org/canon/1999-09-holqed-08-3.txt):

With longer time periods, such
as a century ({vatlh DIS poH}),
millennium ({SaD DIS poH}), or a
period of 10,000 years ("myriad,"
perhaps) ({netlh DIS poH}), the words
{ret} or {pIq} may be used in place of
{poH}, e.g., {cha' vatlh DIS poH} <two
centuries>, but {cha' vatlh DIS ret} <two
centuries ago>. The phrase {cha' vatlh
ben} would mean "200 years ago."
The choice of construction depends [[p.4]]
on what is being emphasized: in this
case, the total number of centuries
(two) or the total number of years
(200).

qurgh




On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:01 PM, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> > tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bong QongmeH qItI'nga' Duj tI'ang
> > ghompu' DIvI' 'ejDo' 'entepray'.
>
> Sentences like this drive me crazy. Can someone explain what the jay'
> {tI'ang} is doing in this sentence ?
>
> Without it we have a nice "at earth century (go figure) accidentally
> the sleeper ship (who cares) is encountered by the starship yadda
> yadda. The {tI'ang} does what exactly ? What's it's role there ?
> Furthermore, why the english translation lacks the word accidentally ?
> And why does it say "A sleeper ship of this [K'Tinga] class" ? Where
> in the original klingon sentence is the "this" expressed ?
> Last but not least.. The english translation goes "24th century".
> According to TKD, we have {wa'DIch} "first" {cha'DIch} "second"
> {HutDIch} "ninth" ; So for "24th" we should have {cha'maH loSDIch}. If
> we indeed had this, I would be ok with {vatlh DIS poH cha'maH
> loSDIch}. But now we have {vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS} which according
> to TKD translates to "century number 24".
>
> Either there is grammar here I'm missing, or this sentence and
> subsequent translation were written with total disregard to those who
> would actually want to learn this language.
>
> And now I remember seeing a sentence - not so long ago - which started
> with {rIntaH}. But that's another story altogether.
>
> tlhIngan Hol vIHaDchoHtaHDI', *canon* mu'tlhegh vIHaDqangQo' ;
> meqvammo', DaH *canon* mu'tlhegh vIHaDqangbe'taH. nIQaHnIS *canon*
> mu'tlhegh. nImISmoHnISbe' *canon* mu'tlhegh.
>
> mIv Hurgh qunnoq
> you have some stuffed to'baj leg in your teeth
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
> >> Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, April 14, 2016
> >>
> >> Klingon word: vem
> >> Part of speech: verb
> >> Definition: wake up, cease sleeping
> >
> >   bIQongtaHvIS nItlhejchugh targhmey bIvemDI' nItlhej ghIlab ghewmey
> >   If you sleep with *targs*, you'll wake up with glob flies. TKW
> >
> > vemmoH                  wake (someone) up (v)
> >
> >   qanjIt qan vemmoH moratlh, vavDaj ghaH qanjIt'e'
> >   Morath wakes his father, the old Kanjit PB
> >
> >
> > *{vemmeH Daq}   awakening point (?)
> >
> > K'Ehleyr said that the 23rd century sleeper ship T'Ong would soon reach
> its "awakening point" (TNG "The Emissary"):
> >
> >   tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bong QongmeH qItI'nga' Duj tI'ang
> >     ghompu' DIvI' 'ejDo' 'entepray'
> >   A sleeper ship of this [K'Tinga] class, the T'Ong, was encountered
> >     in the 24th century by the USS Enterprise. (S15)
> >
> > Its mission was never stated, but after the crew revived Captain K'temoc
> was intent on returning to Kronos quickly instead of attacking nearby
> Federation outposts (TNG "The Emissary").  Some have speculated that he had
> intelligence about the Borg threat.
> >
> >
> > SEE ALSO:
> > Doy'                    be tired (v)
> > leS                     rest, relax (v)
> > Dum                     nap (v)
> > Qong                    sleep (v)
> > vul                     be unconscious (v)
> > vulchoH                 faint (v)
> > vong                    hypnotize (v)
> > naj                     dream (v)
> >
> >
> > N.B. do not confuse with the new noun {vem} "print, mark, tracks, image,
> pattern (left in the dirt from stepping on it)" (cf. qepHom 2015 p.20).
> >
> >
> > --
> > Voragh
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> >
> >
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