[Tlhingan-hol] Upper case letters

Chelsea Knauf chelsea.knauf at gmail.com
Fri Oct 2 08:32:27 PDT 2015


I think the Q and q are just to differentiate the two sounds in writing.
He could have used q and k, I suppose.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Brent Kesler <brent.of.all.people at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I don't think Okrand's choices are random; I think they're rooted in
> various methods of phonetic transcription.
> - S and D are both retroflex.
> - I actually have a Webster's dictionary printed before TKD that uses H in
> its transcription of "Bach".
> - I (capital i) looks like the IPA symbol for that vowel.
> - I have no theory for Q.
>
> bI'reng
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hod qunnoQ:
>>
>> > is it known why the specific letters (written always in upper case in
>> Klingon)
>> >  were chosen by Okrand ?
>> > i mean why "S" and not "G" ? why "D" and not "M" ? and so on..
>> > does anyone know the reason behind these choices?
>>
>> IIRC Okrand used upper case to indicate those letters which were
>> pronounced differently from English.  That is, {S} is closer to /sh/ than
>> /sss/; {H} is like the /ch/ in Bach, not the /h’s/ in Hannah; {I} is like
>> the dotless /i/ in Turkish or the **bI** in Russian, not /eee/ in
>> Spanish or Italian, and so on.  It was simply a way of warning the actors
>> in Star Trek III (which he coached at the studio) to be careful when
>> delivering their Klingon lines.  But he wasn’t consistent.  Why, for
>> example, did he use the digraph {gh} for the gargled **ghayin** of
>> Arabic or the uvular /r/ in French instead of  G, which doesn’t otherwise
>> appear in Klingon?  And then there’s {tlh}!
>>
>> --
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>> Voragh
>>
>> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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