[Tlhingan-hol] Pronouncing Klingon correctly

qunnoQ HoD mihkoun at gmail.com
Mon Nov 30 07:47:26 PST 2015


> He did it to be non-human
I have read too,that Okrand deliberately integrated in klingon
elements unlike anything else included in terran languages ; Is there
a link,where these "exclusively alien elements" of klingon are
mentioned ?

qun HoD

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com> wrote:
> Okrand has repeatedly pointed out that he split {t} and {D} specifically to
> make the Klingon phoneme set as alien as possible, since human languages may
> pronounce all Ds and Ts dentally, as does English, or palatially as do some
> middle-eastern languages, or may use all four consonants (dental and
> palatial versions of each of the two consonants), but none of them use one
> dental and the other palatial.
>
> He didn’t do it because of English, regardless of regional accent. He did it
> to be non-human. It’s a pride point for him, judging by how many times I’ve
> heard or read him explain that. It’s one of his language-geeky things in the
> language, judging by the way that he seems perpetually disappointed that
> people don’t notice and appreciate this more than they do.
>
> pItlh
> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2015, at 1:20 AM, Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> This subject is handled in the book "Klingon for the Galactic Traveller",
> which I have. But it omits one source of trouble.
>
> I am British and I pronounce {t} and {d} correctly everywhere, naturally
> from babyhood. But most Americans seem to mishandle {t}, pronouncing it as
> {d} except at starts of words, e.g. "latter" as "ladder".  And many seem to
> mishandle {d} also, inside words or at the ends of words, slurring it or
> dropping it. And this may carry across into their pronunciation of Klingon.
> (I wonder if this is why Marc Okrand chose the opposition {t} (not
> retroflex) versus {D} (retroflex). to distinnguish.)
>
> (OK, OK, 'ej jiQagh, with the {r} sound, dropping it at the ends of
> syllables as in standard British English, e.g. pronouncing "Thor" the same
> as "thaw", and "horse" as "hawss".)
>
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