[Tlhingan-hol] beyn Dartlh

[qunnoQ HoD]

> I would also suggest that, instead of posting new things to the list, that you reply to comments on and revise your previous translations.

That would be the best thing to do,I agree ; Still,in order for this
to happen three things need to take place first :

1. Someone comment on a specific word/concept I must rephrase/rewrite.
2. Point me in the right direction,with regards to what was written
wrong and why.
3. Write his/her comments in English.

If these took place,then I would be more than happy,to revise my/any
previous translation.

> One point of grammar: {-Daq} is (mostly) a physical locative in Klingon.

good point,though I see that you use the word <<mostly>> ; If "mostly"
applies to {-Daq},then why not use it to express too,concepts as
"among the Klingons" ?

qun HoD

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:30 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
> qunnoQ HoD:
>> "and then there was Darth Bane ; he turned to the dark side,because he was
>> able to acknowledge that in the end, you only have yourself."
>>
>> SItlhDaq,beyn Dartlh tu'lu' je ; tlhojDI' HeghDaq ghaj'egh neH, HoS'a' Hurgh
>> muv rIntaH.
>> (among the Sith,there was Darth Bane too ; when he realized at death he only
>> had himself,he joined (irreversibly/irrevocably) the dark great power.)
>> Or maybe I could say too :
>> SItlhDaq,beyn Dartlh tu'lu' je ; HeghDaq ghaj'egh neH 'e' tlhojDI, HoS'a'
>> Hurgh muv rIntaH
>> (among the Sith,there was Darth Bane too ; when he realized *that* at death
>> he only had himself,he joined (irreversibly/irrevocably) the dark great
>> power.)
>
> I would suggest three things:
> 1. Start by translating simpler concepts first, instead of the rather
> complex ideas you're trying to express here.
> 2. Assume that your audience knows nothing about Star Wars. Explain
> what a Sith is and so on.
> 3. Mark non-translated words like /Darth Bane/ instead of transliterating them.
>
> One point of grammar: {-Daq} is (mostly) a physical locative in
> Klingon. It means "in, at, on, etc. a place", so {SItlhDaq} doesn't
> mean anything except "in a Sith", "on a Sith", and so on. For example,
> {SItlhDaq taj tu'lu'} "there is a knife in the Sith". Same thing for
> {HeghDaq}.
>
> For "realised at death", you have the word order backwards: {HeghDI' tlhoj}.
>
> I don't think Klingons would interpret {ghaj'egh} "to have oneself" in
> quite the way you mean. Consider {nIteb} or {mob}.
>
> I would also suggest that, instead of posting new things to the list,
> that you reply to comments on and revise your previous translations.
>
> --
> De'vID