[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC : Sentences as objects

[qunnoQ HoD]

it just occured to me ; I forgot the {Su-}..     Hoch Sujangmo' Savan.
wa'leS QInmeyraj vIHaD. DaH jIQongnIS.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoch jangmo' Savan. wa'leS QInmeyraj vIHaD. DaH jIQongnIS
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:29 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hoch jangmo' Savan. wa'leS QInmeyraj vIHaD. DaH jIQongnIS.
>>
>> qunnoQ
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve proven many times the poor quality of my memory, particularly when
>>> relating to the questions “who, what, when, where”, though I tend to better
>>> remember “how” and “why”. I don’t have your phonographic memory.
>>>
>>> What I remember about the interview was that we tried to avoid talking
>>> much about the language before or after the interview specifically to avoid
>>> the situation that we seem to be in right now. We both wanted everything
>>> said to be in the interview, available to the most people and not some kind
>>> of insider info. I didn’t want to come out of the rare opportunity of
>>> talking with him with any information that didn’t get shared in HolQeD.
>>>
>>> That I said, “And a typical direct object of {ja’} would be the person
>>> addressed and a typical object of the verb {jatlh} would be the thing you
>>> say,” suggests that either he had told me about this earlier in the
>>> interview or before the interview, as I suspect, or, as you suggest, I made
>>> it up and tried to get him to ascribe to my theory. That was not my goal,
>>> though this was a lot of years ago. Maybe I was that pushy and shallow
>>> then, but I doubt it.
>>>
>>> I don’t think I did a lot of leading the witness in the interview. I
>>> tried hard not to. More than that, I tried to bring up points that he would
>>> either accept, reject, or better explain.
>>>
>>> I don’t have the interview with me just now. Let me look at it again and
>>> see if I can be more specific, though I trust that you’ve already been
>>> through it and there’s probably nothing to find.
>>>
>>> What I do remember was being taken aback by the statement that the two
>>> verbs were different in nature. It prompted me to ask if there were a
>>> similar difference in the verbs for asking...
>>>
>>> pItlh
>>> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 2:11 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/18/2015 2:01 PM, Will Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> He said that the direct object of {ja’} was the person or persons
>>> being addressed, hence {ja’chuq} being translated as “discuss”
>>> because it involves people telling each other something.
>>>
>>>
>>> If he ever said this, it never entered the canon. Was this something he
>>> said to you personally, or was it part of an interview or a published
>>> source? I remember in your HolQeD interview with him on the topic YOU made
>>> this claim to HIM, but he didn't say anything about it.
>>>
>>> ==
>>> WM: Are there any other verbs of speech that you would care to
>>>    comment on?
>>>
>>> MO: Are there any other verbs of speech?
>>>
>>> WM: And a typical direct object of {ja'} would be the person addressed
>>> and a typical object of the verb {jatlh} would be the thing you say.
>>>
>>> MO: The speech event.
>>>
>>> WM: I like that term.
>>>
>>> MO: Including a direct quote. I'm telling a story. He "blah, blah, blah"
>>> {jatlh}.
>>>
>>> --
>>> SuStel
>>> http://trimboli.name
>>>
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