[Tlhingan-hol] Concerning the purpose clauses

[qunnoQ HoD]

> There is no “but”. Okrand says the {-meH} clause must precede the noun or
verb it modifies. Nothing anywhere suggests otherwise.

thank you for replying, and for the encouragement too !

however this example confuses me :
{jIpaSqu'mo' narghpu' qaSuchmeH 'eb} <<Because I'm very late, the
opportunity to visit you has escaped.>>

why is the {qaSuchmeH 'eb} at the end,instead of the beginning of the
sentence ?

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com>
wrote:

> To paraphrase Edison:
>
> bIQaghqanbe’chugh vay' DachenmoHlaHbe'.
>
> Don’t worry about your past mistakes. Each one teaches you something.
> Before Edison made his first successful lightbulb, he noted that he had
> learned of more than a hundred materials out of which one cannot make a
> lightbulb.
>
> Mistakes are EXPECTED of you at this stage. You have nothing to apologize
> for. If you weren’t making mistakes, you would not be learning. By daring
> to try (and including mistakes), you progress where more reluctant students
> will handicap themselves.
>
> You can’t get good at walking without getting VERY good at FALLING.
>
> I watched my granddaughter as she very studiously bent as if sitting, then
> fell over, quite intentionally, rolled over to face down, figured out how
> to, by stages, stand up (at one point, looking like a squatting summa
> wrestler before rising to stand). She would then smile broadly to herself
> and squat down and fall over again, as she taught herself how to more
> gracefully get up off the floor without having to be next to walls or
> furniture.
>
> You’ll speak better Klingon if you take her example to heart.
>
> pItlh
> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
>
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:40 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> thank you all very much for the corrections and suggestions !
>
> I realize than I must be more careful with the letters that must be
> written in upper-case. It was just that I was pressuring myself to find the
> correct way to place the {-meH},that my attention strayed away from writing
> the letters correctly. I will definitely try to be more careful in the
> future.
> Indeed I referred to the dog using {ghaH} instead of {'oH},and thank you
> all for bringing this to my attention. I must think,trying to find the
> correct way to say things in Klingon. I get confused because I tend to
> think in greek ; in greek <<dog>> is referred to either as a <<he>> or as
> an <<it>>,most commonly as a <<he>>.  So indeed I have to be more
> careful,taking into account how things are supposed to be said in tlhIngan
> Hol.
> Also I messed up the use of words such as {ngoH},and forgot suffixes etc
> etc. I will definitely study all of your corrections and observations
> taking them into account.
> Good point with regards to whether <<the ferengi>> in english is singular
> or plural ; I thought that I had to put the {-pu'} to express them being
> more than one. Luckily I was corrected.
>
> So,to summarize :
>
> The good : I slowly begin to "feel" how the {-meH} is to be used. Meaning
> that I slowly begin to understand what must go before it,and what must go
> after.
> The bad : All the mistakes I made,which will definitely be the subject of
> a lengthy examination taking place in my mind the next few hours.
>
> thank you all for tractoring me out of the {-mey} nebula ! next on route
> is the "sentences as objects" constellation. If I encounter any linguistic
> anomalies I'll send a distress call.
>
> cpt qunnoQ
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:41 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2015 9:37 AM, Will Martin wrote:
>>
>> I’m not sure that {be’ la’} would be interpreted as a female commander.
>>> To my eye, it looks more like a woman’s commander, or the commander of a
>>> woman. In other words, there’s a woman, and she has a commander, and you
>>> are saying something about that commander.
>>>
>>
>> A noun-noun construction can be used in any kind of genitive
>> construction. For example, KGT gives us {baS 'In} "metal pot." It's not
>> "metal's pot" or "pot of the metal."
>>
>> So {be' la'} can be used for "woman commander."
>>
>> --
>> SuStel
>> http://trimboli.name
>>
>>
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