[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon dialogue in STID (was: Klingon Word of the Day: SaHHa'ghach)

[Felix Malmenbeck]

The way you tell it is correct, but there are some details to be added. From memory:

On set, all the Klingon-speaking actors received coaching from Britton Watkins.
When recording the new lines, Marc worked with Saldana and a number of background voice actors, but due to a scheduling conflict he wasn't able to work with the Klingon commander (Sean Blakemore), who I believe just had Okrand's recorded voice to work with.

Here is one of the earlier cuts:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K0cFLb-JmaQ

Note that there is already some rather significant mismatch between the spoken dialogue and the subtitles.

Also, pay special attention to the scene at around 0:38, especially at the end when he leans in from the right of the screen to the center.

He says something like «tlhInganna' naQ pu''a' SoH.» (which I'm sure is a great compliment)

Now, compare the final cut, at around 0:27:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K0cFLb-JmaQ

At the beginning, you can see him lean out from the center of the screen and to the right. I believe this is that scene, played backwards.

As a bonus, here's another deleted scene with Klingon dialogue for us to figure out:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XSsd78vllng

ghItlhta' lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:

But here at KLI, we get these stories that nobody else gets. Likely, this little story of a scene shot in reverse won’t make it into the “Special Features” of the DVD for the movie. And if it did and one of us bought it, the rest of us would hear the story.

Indeed! We have our own written history of Star Trek shared between us, seen through the eyes of a guy who's been working behind the scenes for over 30 years now, together with the investigative potential of a small but intrepid army of nitpic... of connoisseurs!

11 jan 2015 kl. 18:25 skrev Lieven <levinius at gmx.de<mailto:levinius at gmx.de>>:

Am 11.01.2015 um 17:45 schrieb Felix Malmenbeck:
As I've understood it, not only did they change the English
line after they'd recorded the Klingon line, they also played
this particular shot in reverse (because they thought it
looked better), so Okrand had to fit the new line to the
lip movements of a Klingon talking backwards.

I'm not sure if that's correct, or I did misunderstand. AFAIK, the one line spoken by the klingon has not been changed, at least Okrand told me he did not work with him during post-production:

"I did not work with that one Klingon who takes of his helmet [Sean Blakemore], they did that on their own. As a result, let's say he comes from a different part of the Klingon planet."

(from http://www.qephom.de/e/okrand_about_into_darkness.html)

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