[Tlhingan-hol] FW: Nonsense words

[Robyn Stewart]

Perfect. That’s just what I was hoping: it’s the name of a *particular*
month—in a particular culture on a particular planet. So I don’t have to
disprove it.

Now if everyone, of any ability, would write me a few Klingon sentences
whose English translation contains the word “month” or “season” we can
retrain it. Don’t stretch yourself. Write within your ability. E-mail to me,
include the English translation and then I will post the list for us to typo
check.

 

- Qov

 

From: Felix Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm at kth.se] 
Sent: February 24, 2015 15:19



> Maktag 

>maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [From "New Ground" (TNG). At least
43 days long.]

 

>Is anyone familiar enough with this TNG novel to know whether

> maqtagh was supposed to be a particular season, analogous

> perhaps to “monsoon” or “spring” or a generic word for a

> seasonal time period?

 

Not a novel, actually, but an episode.

 

Alexander Rozhenko, son of Worf, was born on the 43rd day of Maktag. It's
not specified if it's a month or a season.

 

The book Excelsior: Forged in Fire treats it as a month.

(It also treats Klingon years as being precisely the same length as Earth
years, which flies in the face of Star Trek canon.)

 

  _____  

From: Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 00:07
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] FW: Nonsense words 

 

>From a conversation with my primary contact on the Microsoft Bing team. 

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I found this online
(http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html -- careful, this
site seems weird and may contain malware)

Maktag 

maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [From "New Ground" (TNG). At least 43
days long.]

 

Somehow the wrong spelling of Maktag made it into a training text file,
where I can see

 

maqtagh              à           month

maqtagh              à           season

 

i.e. possibly someone originally found the site above and added words /
sentences to one of the training files.

 

And so the engine learned that.

We have to remove and retrain.

We have an efficient way to change bad translation, but not a good way to
‘remove’ words or phrases altogether.. 

..what I can do easily (we do these once a week) is to replace the wrong
translation from English to Klingon.

i.e. “month” and “season” right now translate to “maqtagh”.. what would be a
better translation for “season”?

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Some well-meaning individual has managed to add Angelfire to our learning
files, and like glitter in the carpet, it will be everywhere unless we can
pick it out grain by grain.  Is anyone familiar enough with this TNG novel
to know whether maqtagh was supposed to be a particular season, analogous
perhaps to “monsoon” or “spring” or a generic word for a seasonal time
period?  

- Qov

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