[Tlhingan-hol] Royal We Beginners' Conversation

[mayql qunenoS]

ok,thank you for teaching me all this ! I will take care from now on,
to use {je} correctly.

cpt qunnoQ

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 5:36 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 12/31/2015 10:00 AM, mayql qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> 'ach tera'ngan *rooster* rurqu'bejmo', wIlo'.
>> however, because it definitely resembles a lot the terran rooster, we used
>> it.
>>
>> 'ej wISopbej je !
>> and we would undoubtebly eat it too !
>
>
> Here's a point of grammar that I only recently learned to use correctly.
> Even after all this time (I started learning Klingon in the early '90s)
> there are still things to learn.
>
> {je} is a noun conjunction, even when it's used after a verb. You can't use
> it unless you're saying something like "X did such-and-such and Y did
> such-and-such too." The verb has to be the same or similar so the meaning of
> {je} is to say that X and Y did the same thing.
>
> Your sentences, simplified, are
>
>    *wIlo' 'ej wISop je
>    we use it and we eat it too
>
> But it can't be used like that. {je} would be interpreted to mean {maH maH
> je}, and the verbs are not similar, so what are we and we doing? It's a bit
> of a mess. Prior to a couple of weeks ago, I would have said this sentence
> was fine, but it's not.
>
> Here's an example using {je} after a verb correctly:
>
>   vISop 'ej DaSop je
>   I eat it and you eat it too
>   I eat it and so do you
>
> The {je} conjoins the elided {jIH} and {SoH} of the sentences.
>
>    vISop jIH 'ej DaSop je SoH
>    equals
>    wISop jIH SoH je
>
> {je} can also be used to conjoin objects:
>
>    HIq vItlhutlh 'ej bIQ vItlhutlh je
>    I drink alcohol and I drink water too
>    I drink alcohol and also water
>    equals
>    HIq bIQ je vItlhutlh
>
> Much of the time you wouldn't use {je} as I've used it above. {vISop 'ej
> DaSop} may be all you need. {je} is good for a "me too!" kind of expression.
>
>    jatlh qama': jIghung.
>    The prisoner says, "I am hungry."
>
>    jatlh 'avwI': jIghung je.
>    The guard says, "I am also hungry." (PK)
>
>
>    Dargh wIb vItlhutlh.
>    I'll drink sour tea.
>
>    Dargh wIb tlhutlh je jupwI'.
>    My friend will drink sour tea as well.
>
>
>    jonwI', QuQ tItI'
>    Engineer, fix the engines!
>
>    qa'vIn jan yItI' je!
>    Fix the coffee machine too!
>
>
> --
> SuStel
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