[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: Learning Vocab (was: KLBC: "Which" and uses of question words)

Sat Dec 12 06:35:55 PST 2015

I suspect that the root of your good method for learning vocabulary is that you are spending a lot of time with each word and thinking a lot about each one, deciding what could best symbolize each one. Once you've done this, I suspect you don't need the cards anymore, and I doubt that those cards would be effective for anyone else. 

In college I always took notes in class. I never reviewed them. The process of putting the ideas into my own words for the notes made the ideas stick in my memory. Since I was writing fast, the notes weren't all that legible, but that didn't matter. The process was more important than the physical product.

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> On Dec 12, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Fatairae <fatairae at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I use symbolic flash cards.  I've found that using just a eng-tlh word pair takes me 5x longer to memorize a word, then pairing it with a picture and pronunciation (sound clips, I use a flash card program).  In fact, I actually try to avoid the English word completely, and use a description, or related thing, as the eng part.  When I see matlh, I think of a husky puppy.  When I see ba', I see a chair.  HoS, an atlas statue.
>   The only down side is it takes 4 minutes to create each one hehe.  You can do the same with grammar.
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> On Dec 12, 2015, at 03:38, John R. Harness <cartweel at gmail.com> wrote:
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> qunnoQ has described a good strategy for learning Klingon vocabulary, something which I myself have always had trouble with.
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> Maybe what he says will work well for you, QISta', or anyone, and maybe it won't. Try lots of strategies and see what works for you! Part of studying a language -- especially when you aren't taking a class in person, and don't have fluent speakers nearby -- is to try and make the language a part of your everyday life. qunnoQ does this by glancing in a vocabulary book throughout the day; Qov and others have described labeling everything in their house with Klingon vocabulary words; and I try to do flashcards as often as possible, and am (obviously) trying to participate in this list a lot more!
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> QISta', you may find it helpful to know that there is a list of "beginner's words" that make up the vocab for the first Klingon Language Certification Program. It is a great place to start for learning vocab! (Your mileage may vary. It isn't exactly a list of "simple" or "common" words, but it does include many of those.)
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> The list is at the bottom of this page: http://www.kli.org/activities/klcp/guidelines/
> And there are flashcards specifically for this list here: http://www.memrise.com/course/25764/klcp1/
> Klingonska.org has a vocabulary "extraction" and flash card program that is SUPER helpful when you want to learn vocabulary that is specifically from a certain text: http://klingonska.org/glossary/#input
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> You may also try to learn vocabulary for subjects that interest you and that you'd like to write about, since this may help you maintain your interest. I work at an art museum and once sat down and learned as much of the vocabulary as I could to talk about art and my job, and since then I've been able to use and remember most of it!
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> Does anybody else have any vocab learning tricks?
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> Good luck in learning your vocab! You've got to use it to remember it!
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> 'arHa
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>> > Right now knowing only a few words, you know...
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>> QISta'..
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>> tlhIngan pongwIj vIparHa'mo',pegh qaja'.
>> because I like your klingon name,I will tell you a secret.
>> 
>> 'ach nuQoychugh Seng tu'lu' 'ej meqvamvaD peghvam qathlup.
>> however if they hear us there will be trouble,and for this reason I
>> will whisper you this secret.
>> 
>> peghvam qatlhup,maghoHtaH reH naDev 'e' muDoy'mo' 'ej muQeHmoHqu'mo' je.
>> I will whisper you this secret,because it makes me tired and pisses me
>> off too, that here we're always arguing.
>> 
>> tlhIngan mu'mey DaghojmeH, ngeDqu'bej 'oH !
>> it is undoubtebly very easy to learn the klingon words.
>> 
>> DaghojmeH,mIwvam Datlha'nIS :
>> in order to learn them,this process you must follow :
>> 
>> wa'Dich mu'mey tetlh naQ DachenmoH.
>> first create a complete word list.
>> 
>> Hoch TKD,KGT,KLI mu'mey ngaSnIS tetlhvam.
>> this list needs to contain all TKD,KGT,KLI words.
>> 
>> DachenmoHDI' nav DaQay.
>> as soon as you create it,transfer it to paper.
>> 
>> DaH,paqHom Daghaj..
>> now you will have a little book.
>> 
>> raSlIjDaq,retlh QongDaqlIjDaq,toQDuj meHlIjDaq ghap Dalan paqHomvam.
>> place this little book at your desk,beside your bed or at your bird's
>> of prey bridge.
>> 
>> pIj DapoSmoH,'ej puS mu'mey DalaD.
>> frequently you open it,and read a few words.
>> 
>> cha'logh-wejlogh Hoch jaj paqHomvam DalaDnIS.
>> you need to read this little book two-three times each day.
>> 
>> 'ej tugh ngoQlIj Dachav !
>> and soon you will have achieved your goal !
>> 
>> latlhpu' tIja'Qo' qaja' !
>> don't tell the others I told you !
>> 
>> Daja'chughmo',poSmoH ghe'tor lojmItmey.
>> because if you tell them,the gates of hell will open.
>> 
>> 'ej ghoHmeH Doy'qu'bej..
>> and I'm really very tired of arguing..
>> 
>> mayql qunenoS aka qun HoD aka qunnoQ HoD
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