[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: Learning Vocab (was: KLBC: "Which" and uses of question words)

Sat Dec 12 09:17:14 PST 2015

Thank you for these tips! I am a Memrise user, and am currently doing a course based on TKD, but it's not completely accurate - it claims that "only" (yes, the English word "only") is Klingon for "about(v)", and a couple other things that make me think it was made by a computer program and then not proofread. I'll definitely look at that course you mentioned! And then if I ever have the means to go to qap'a', I can get my certification (not to mention the event t-shirt), and my friends will be sooooo impressed, lol! 

And I agree that learning vocabulary for things that interest you is more effective than learning lists of words for things you don't care about. I care about learning languages, so "Hol" and "ghoj" stick in my mind, but "begh" has to be learned by rote, as I don't think much about deflectors. And, as I've mentioned before, I've never even watched Star Trek, so I don't have any familiar movie lines to help me remember.

I don't think my family will stand for me labeling everything in the house; they have a strong dislike for all "made-up languages" :'-(. They already look down on me for speaking Esperanto, Lojban, and Toki Pona, and that pains me deeply, but I can't stop, I just can't! And how can they look down on me because my languages "aren't useful", when they don't bother to learn *any* other languages?? But... my rant/sob-story is off-topic. Sorry about that.

-QISta' 

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De: "John R. Harness" <cartweel at gmail.com>
Fecha: sáb., dic. 12, 2015 01:38
Asunto: [Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: Learning Vocab (was: KLBC: "Which" and uses of question words)
Para: <tlhingan-hol at kli.org>

qunnoQ has described a good strategy for learning Klingon vocabulary,
something which I myself have always had trouble with.

Maybe what he says will work well for you, QISta', or anyone, and maybe it
won't. Try lots of strategies and see what works for you! Part of studying
a language -- especially when you aren't taking a class in person, and
don't have fluent speakers nearby -- is to try and make the language a part
of your everyday life. qunnoQ does this by glancing in a vocabulary book
throughout the day; Qov and others have described labeling everything in
their house with Klingon vocabulary words; and I try to do flashcards as
often as possible, and am (obviously) trying to participate in this list a
lot more!

QISta', you may find it helpful to know that there is a list of "beginner's
words" that make up the vocab for the first Klingon Language Certification
Program. It is a great place to start for learning vocab! (Your mileage may
vary. It isn't exactly a list of "simple" or "common" words, but it does
include many of those.)

The list is at the bottom of this page:
http://www.kli.org/activities/klcp/guidelines/
And there are flashcards specifically for this list here:
http://www.memrise.com/course/25764/klcp1/
Klingonska.org has a vocabulary "extraction" and flash card program that is
SUPER helpful when you want to learn vocabulary that is specifically from a
certain text: http://klingonska.org/glossary/#input

You may also try to learn vocabulary for subjects that interest you and
that you'd like to write about, since this may help you maintain your
interest. I work at an art museum and once sat down and learned as much of
the vocabulary as I could to talk about art and my job, and since then I've
been able to use and remember most of it!

Does anybody else have any vocab learning tricks?

Good luck in learning your vocab! You've got to use it to remember it!

'arHa

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> > Right now knowing only a few words, you know...
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> QISta'..
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> tlhIngan pongwIj vIparHa'mo',pegh qaja'.
> because I like your klingon name,I will tell you a secret.
>
> 'ach nuQoychugh Seng tu'lu' 'ej meqvamvaD peghvam qathlup.
> however if they hear us there will be trouble,and for this reason I
> will whisper you this secret.
>
> peghvam qatlhup,maghoHtaH reH naDev 'e' muDoy'mo' 'ej muQeHmoHqu'mo' je.
> I will whisper you this secret,because it makes me tired and pisses me
> off too, that here we're always arguing.
>
> tlhIngan mu'mey DaghojmeH, ngeDqu'bej 'oH !
> it is undoubtebly very easy to learn the klingon words.
>
> DaghojmeH,mIwvam Datlha'nIS :
> in order to learn them,this process you must follow :
>
> wa'Dich mu'mey tetlh naQ DachenmoH.
> first create a complete word list.
>
> Hoch TKD,KGT,KLI mu'mey ngaSnIS tetlhvam.
> this list needs to contain all TKD,KGT,KLI words.
>
> DachenmoHDI' nav DaQay.
> as soon as you create it,transfer it to paper.
>
> DaH,paqHom Daghaj..
> now you will have a little book.
>
> raSlIjDaq,retlh QongDaqlIjDaq,toQDuj meHlIjDaq ghap Dalan paqHomvam.
> place this little book at your desk,beside your bed or at your bird's
> of prey bridge.
>
> pIj DapoSmoH,'ej puS mu'mey DalaD.
> frequently you open it,and read a few words.
>
> cha'logh-wejlogh Hoch jaj paqHomvam DalaDnIS.
> you need to read this little book two-three times each day.
>
> 'ej tugh ngoQlIj Dachav !
> and soon you will have achieved your goal !
>
> latlhpu' tIja'Qo' qaja' !
> don't tell the others I told you !
>
> Daja'chughmo',poSmoH ghe'tor lojmItmey.
> because if you tell them,the gates of hell will open.
>
> 'ej ghoHmeH Doy'qu'bej..
> and I'm really very tired of arguing..
>
> mayql qunenoS aka qun HoD aka qunnoQ HoD
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