[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: moHaq mojaq DuHmey

[mayql qunenoS]

maj. DaH jIyaj.qavan SuStel !

qun HoD

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 8:36 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 12/9/2015 1:14 PM, mayql qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> {QeD bopbogh ghItlhmey'e' vIqon qen 'e' vInIDtaH.}
>> {mu'mey vIchenmoHmeH <-ghach> vIlo'nIS SIbI' 'e' vItu'pu'.}
>>
>> mich 5.4 mich 6.7 je vIlaD,'ach {qen} {SIbI'} je lo'lIj vIyajbe' ;
>> qatlh pa' Dalan ?
>
>
> Before I answer your question, let me point out that both of those sentences
> contain the same error: the {-taH} and the {-pu'} are not allowed in those
> positions. According to TKD 6.2.5 you can't put a type 7 suffix on the
> second verb of a sentence-as-object construction. Okrand has violated this
> rule a couple of times.
>
> Now for your question. In a sentence as object construction, you have the
> following form:
>
>    S1 S2
>
> where S1 and S2 are complete sentences. S1 can be any kind of sentence you
> want. S2 has some restrictions; it must have at least these elements:
>
>    PRO V2
>
> where PRO is either {'e'} or {net} and V2 is a verb with a prefix indicating
> a third-person singular object.
>
> Here's an example:
>
>    yaS qIppu' 'e' vIlegh
>    [   S1   ] [   S2   ]
>               PRO < v2 >
>
> S2 can still take other elements: adverbials, subjects, time stamps,
> whatever. Remembering that PRO is the object of the verb in S2, if you want
> to put an adverbial into S2, it has to go before the object, just like in
> any other sentence:
>
>    ADV PRO V2
>
> Here's an example:
>
>    yaS qIppu' qen 'e' vIlegh
>    [   S1   ] [     S2     ]
>               ADV PRO < V2 >
>
> We finally got evidence that this works in paq'batlh with at least one
> sentence:
>
>    SuvwI' DameH puqloDwI' / vIghojHa'moH DaH 'e' vItlhoj
>    I see now, I have failed / To raise my son a man.
>
>    vIghojHa'moH DaH 'e' vItlhoj
>    I mis-teach him; now I realize that
>
> A mistake that most people make when starting out is thinking they're
> conjunctions. They're pronouns, and they're always the object of the second
> sentence.
>
> --
> SuStel
> http://trimboli.name
>
>
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