[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: {-'e'} mojaq

qunnoQ HoD mihkoun at gmail.com
Sun Dec 6 08:11:16 PST 2015


aargh ! HIvqa' veqlargh ! {Q.v} vIHech !

qun HoD

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> DaH jIyajchu' ! 'arHa De'vID je Savan.
>
> qun HoD
>
> Q.ch. wa : {ghorqan} pong vIghoj 'e' jIbel.
> Q.ch cha' : {Q.ch} = <QIn vIchelbogh> ; mu'tlheghwIjvaD DIvI Hol <p.s>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 2:49 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 'arHa:
>>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon qeng'e' je
>>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon'e' qang je
>>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon'e' qeng'e' je
>>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon qeng je'e'
>>>> Where do the topic marker(s) go?
>>
>> qun HoD:
>>> DIpmey neH tlhejmo' {-'e'} mojaq , lughlaw' mu'tlheghvam :
>>> {tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon'e' qeng'e' je}.
>>
>> majQa'. bIlugh.
>>
>> From HolQeD 4.2:
>> <<LS: Somebody was asking about if you have two nouns that both have
>> {-'e'} on them, and they're conjoined with {je}, do you put the {-'e'}
>> on the {je} or on the nouns?
>>
>> MO: Right. Can you topicalize a conjunction? I don't know... nah...>>
>>
>> From the SkyBox cards:
>> <<TM, ® & © 1994 PARAMOUNT PICTURES. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. STAR TREK
>> AND RELATED MARKS ARE TRADEMARKS OF PARAMOUNT PICTURES. SKYBOX
>> INTERNATIONAL, INC. AUTHORIZED USER.
>>
>> TM, ®, © je tera' DIS wa'-Hut-Hut-loS Paramount Pictures. Hoch SeH.
>> Paramount Pictures
>> malja' permey bIH Star Trek pong'e' Deghmey'e' je. bIH lo' SkyBox
>> International, Inc. 'e' chaw'.>>
>>
>> qun HoD:
>>>'ach cha' DIpmey ponglu'bogh
>>> ghaj ghantoHmeylIj. wa' DIp wa' patlh je ghaj ghantoHmeywIj. jImIS..
>>
>> lugh {tlhIngan ghaH gorqon Qang'e'}. jangpu' 'arHa, jatlh: "In the
>> case you gave, you should treat the name and the title {gorqon Qang}
>> "Chancellor Gorkon" as one unit."
>>
>> I can't think of any examples where the subject of the copula is a
>> person with a title, but there's no reason to think that it isn't
>> treated as a unit the same way anything else would be in that slot.
>>
>> We do have some canon examples where the subject of the copula isn't a
>> simple noun:
>> {loghDaq Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu' chaH [Hoch SuvwI'pu']'e'}
>> {nuqDaq 'oH [Qe' QaQ]'e'?}
>>
>> p.s. There is no {g} in Klingon, only {gh}. I don't believe the
>> Klingon form of "Gorkon" has ever appeared in canon, but I think it
>> would be something like *{ghorqan}.
>>
>> --
>> De'vID
>>
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