[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: {-'e'} mojaq

qunnoQ HoD mihkoun at gmail.com
Sun Dec 6 08:08:10 PST 2015


DaH jIyajchu' ! 'arHa De'vID je Savan.

qun HoD

Q.ch. wa : {ghorqan} pong vIghoj 'e' jIbel.
Q.ch cha' : {Q.ch} = <QIn vIchelbogh> ; mu'tlheghwIjvaD DIvI Hol <p.s>

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 2:49 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 'arHa:
>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon qeng'e' je
>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon'e' qang je
>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon'e' qeng'e' je
>>> tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon qeng je'e'
>>> Where do the topic marker(s) go?
>
> qun HoD:
>> DIpmey neH tlhejmo' {-'e'} mojaq , lughlaw' mu'tlheghvam :
>> {tlhInganpu' chaH gorqon'e' qeng'e' je}.
>
> majQa'. bIlugh.
>
> From HolQeD 4.2:
> <<LS: Somebody was asking about if you have two nouns that both have
> {-'e'} on them, and they're conjoined with {je}, do you put the {-'e'}
> on the {je} or on the nouns?
>
> MO: Right. Can you topicalize a conjunction? I don't know... nah...>>
>
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>
> qun HoD:
>>'ach cha' DIpmey ponglu'bogh
>> ghaj ghantoHmeylIj. wa' DIp wa' patlh je ghaj ghantoHmeywIj. jImIS..
>
> lugh {tlhIngan ghaH gorqon Qang'e'}. jangpu' 'arHa, jatlh: "In the
> case you gave, you should treat the name and the title {gorqon Qang}
> "Chancellor Gorkon" as one unit."
>
> I can't think of any examples where the subject of the copula is a
> person with a title, but there's no reason to think that it isn't
> treated as a unit the same way anything else would be in that slot.
>
> We do have some canon examples where the subject of the copula isn't a
> simple noun:
> {loghDaq Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu' chaH [Hoch SuvwI'pu']'e'}
> {nuqDaq 'oH [Qe' QaQ]'e'?}
>
> p.s. There is no {g} in Klingon, only {gh}. I don't believe the
> Klingon form of "Gorkon" has ever appeared in canon, but I think it
> would be something like *{ghorqan}.
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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