[Tlhingan-hol] 2 nouns in apposition
De'vID
de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com
Fri Dec 4 02:43:07 PST 2015
fata irae:
> mu'ghom vInejmo'Qo', mu'tlheghmey leghlaw'. mu'taywIj mach.
> Because I refuse to look at a dictionary, the sentences are probably not
> right (right doubtfully). My vocabulary is small.
{mu'ghomDaq jInejQo'mo', ghaytan lughbe' mu'tlheghmey. mach mu'tay'wIj.}
You're searching in a dictionary, not for a dictionary.
{Xmo' lughlaw' Y} would mean "Y seems to be right because of X", not
"I'm not sure Y is right because of X".
fata irae:
> jachugh'a''e' tlhlIngan Hol yIjatlh!
> Rant in klingon!
"As for discussions ({ja'chuq}), speak Klingon!"
I don't get the sense of "rant", which probably needs {QeH} to express.
fata irae:
> Dochvam Dochvetlh joj lughna'. 'englIS Hol jIjatlh:
> This thing, and/or that thing, is the point. In english I say:
{lughna'} is not a word.
{DIvI' Hol} "Federation language" is what we call English.
I have no idea what you want to say.
fata irae:
> The block was blocked from blocking out the block by another block.
bIchech'a'?
fata irae:
> Dochvam 'oh'a'? Dochvetlh 'oh'a'?
> Is it this thing? Is it that thing?
{'oH}
fata irae:
> quS 'Ijchughmey, 'ach pIm mu'na'.
> Few sounds, but different meanings (true words).
{puS}? {wab}?
{'Ij} is a verb.
{mu'na'} does not mean "meaning", it does not mean "true word", it
means something that you're sure is a word.
fata irae:
> mu'mey pIm'a' "-pu"?
> Is "-pu" different words?
nuqjatlh?
{mu'mey} should be the subject of {pIm'a'}, I think, though I have no
idea what you want to say, or how {-pu'} is related to it.
fata irae:
> Are stop and/or past different?
> mevchugh ben joj pIm'a'?
Ditto, the things which are different should be the subject of the
verb. I don't understand {mevchugh} as a noun, though I think you have
confused {joq} and {joj}.
The conjunctions are easy to remember if you know that the noun ones
are the reverse of the verb ones. So {joj} can't be a conjunction.
fata irae:
> pImbe' Doch 'e' jIjatlh.
> nIbbe' 'oH, 'ach pImbe' 'oH.
> The thing is different, I say. It is not the same, but it is not different.
Dap Dajatlh, jIjatlh.
fata irae:
> Yes, many of the words are placeholders (ngggg, mu'qoq 'oH'a'?), since I
> couldn't think of the mu'na', true word. The big one was "know", and a
> couple if's I had to rephrase. 'ach vInejQo'. Memory must serve, for now.
{lIw}
"know" is {Sov}
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