[Tlhingan-hol] beyn Dartlh

[André Müller]

In addition to what De'vID quoted, I had a look at the sentences in which
{-Daq} appears and they're all real locations where things or beings can
be, like room, spaceship, rivers, planets, sometimes people ("within you" =
{SoHDaq}). But we have one example from the paq'batlh:

{yIntaHbogh nuvpu'Daq / HItlhej HItlhej HItlhej / 'ej nItebHa' molor wISuv.}
«Come, come, come / With me to the living, / And fight Molor with me.»
lit.: "To the people who are living / accompany me, accompany me, accompany
me / and we fight Molor together."

At first I thought this might be understood as "among the people", but
since {-Daq} can also mean 'to(ward) something', this is probably the
prefered reading. And then people can be a genuine place, too.

So, we don't have any non-local meanings for {-Daq}, it seems. Okrand
consistently used it only for places.
- André

2015-12-01 12:34 GMT+01:00 De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com>:

> qunnoQ HoD:
> > Where does he write that {-Daq}
> > is *exclusively* to be used for physical locations ?
>
> In a message to the startrek.klingon newsgroup dated Mar. 23, 1998,
> Marc Okrand wrote:
> <<In English, the preposition "in" is sometimes locative (that is,
> referring
> to location) in meaning (e.g., "in the house," "on the table") but
> sometimes not (as in the examples cited above, "trust in God," "believe in
> magic").  In fact, in English, "in" frequently doesn't have a literally
> locative sense.  We use it all over the place:  "in debt," "work in
> television," "in preparing this report," "speaking in Klingon," and so on.
> Likewise, in addition to the locative uses of the English preposition
> "from" ("run from the burning house," "traveled from Paris"), there are
> non-locative uses ("know right from wrong," "stop me from eating").  The
> story's the same for other English prepositions (for example, locative "on
> the table," non-locative "go on with your story"; locative "under the
> table," non-locative "under discussion").
>
> In Klingon, however, the noun suffixes {-Daq} (the general locative) and
> {-vo'} "from" express only notions related to space ("to a place," "in a
> place," "from a place," and so on).  They are thus not the same as English
> prepositions, which have a wider range of usage.>>
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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