[Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

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The point that has been made that you seem to have missed is that *{'arDIch} is apparently not a word.

It's logical that it would be a word, since {'arlogh} is a word, and since {'ar} is the question word replaced by a number, and {-logh} is a number suffix, that since {-DIch} is a number suffix, you could put it on {'ar}, too, but that's an assumption that has not been backed up by either use in canon or grammatical discussion or description by Marc Okrand.

So, the word *{'arDIch} is not a word, and discussing it further is futile.

The only use of {-DIch} that is valid is applying it to a number to be functionally equivalent of what happens in English when you add "th" to "5" to make "5th".

On Jun 17, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Brad Wilson <bmacliam at aol.com> wrote:

>  >>>
> If I ask, "Which door do you choose?", it's still simple {lojmIt 'arDIch DawIv?} 
> You answer "I choose the third door." {lojmIt wejDIch vIwIv.}
> <<< 
> If {'arDIch} really means "which" in the sense of "one of a choice of options", then I could answer with {lojmItvatlh vIwIv} (pointing to my selection) or {lojmIt SuD vIwIv} and not use {-DIch} at all.
> The question I was asking earlier:
> >>>
> Is there are requirement that if the question uses {'arDIch} that the answer must use {number-DIch}?
> It would seem that {-DIch} is a "sequential" marker that identifies its headword 
> either by appearance to the speaker, or importance, or by some other criterion.
> <<<
> All uses of {-DIch} that I'm aware of seem to be that of "ordinalizing" a number, i.e. ordering either in space or time.
> In English, the word "which" can have an ordinal sense to it:
> ... "the position in a sequence of doors in front of me" or "the appearance of doors over time (say, walking down a hall)".
> But "which" can also mean "a choice from a selection without regard to order".
> My question is, without further clarification from MO, can we say that {'arDIch} also has this broader meaning of "one of a choice, order notwithstanding"?
> gheyIl
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