[Tlhingan-hol] Too short

[SuStel]

On 7/2/2014 10:37 AM, Lieven wrote:
> Am 02.07.2014 16:23, schrieb lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com:
>> There's still the issue [...]
>> I suspect that a Klingon listening to what you've said would notate it
>> as:
>>
>> HoS. val. vaQ 'ej Duj Doj ra'mo' vIqIH vIneH.
>>
>> And in such a case, it's odd that {vaQ} is conjoined with the sentence
>> that follows it and not those that preceded it.
>
>
> You're right, punctuation cannot be heard. But you can still do an
> acustic break when speaking:
>
> HoS. val. vaQ.

And this is exactly what I'm arguing against. The period indicates this 
is a full stop; your tone drops and you come to a rest, albeit brief. 
There is no vocal continuation from one word to the next. The ideas are 
being verbally separated.

It's the difference between

    He is strong.
    He is clever.
    He is aggressive.

and

    He is strong, clever, aggressive.

The first one is saying a bunch of separate things. The second is saying 
one thing.

I wish I knew how pitch can be indicated in text. Lemme try my own notation.

    / Pitch goes from low to high.
    \ Pitch goes from high to low.
    ¯ Pitch remains high through syllable.
    _ Pitch remains low through syllable.
    — Pitch remains mid-range through syllable.
    . Speaker pauses slightly.
    … Speaker pauses for a longer time.

I'll put the indication of pitch after each syllable. This is what I hear.

    tlha'a HoD vIHo'. HoS. val. vaQ. Duj Doj ra'. vIqIH vIneH.
    tlha'¯a¯HoD—vI—Ho'\…HoS\…val\…vaQ\…Duj—Doj—ra'\…vI—qIH¯vI—neH\

    tlha'a HoD vIHo': HoS, val, vaQ, Duj Doj ra'. vIqIH vIneH.
    tlha'¯a¯HoD—vI—Ho'—.HoS¯.val¯.vaQ¯.Duj¯Doj¯ra'\…vI—qIH¯vI—neH\

Does that help at all?

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