[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: naj

[Bellerophon, modeler]

jIjepHa'bejpu'! Actually you got much of it anyway.
Again without careless mistakes (any remaining mistakes are careful ones):

ngach Daj pIlmoHlaw' nab QaghmeywIj
'e' vIppIHbe' jInajtaHvIS je
maj
sughoHtaHjaj ej maHvaD QIjjaj matlh

{nab Qagh} /grammar error/ (A more experienced speaker's usage would avoid
confusion where nouns and verbs are identical in form. Perhaps {nabwIj
Qaghmey} /errors in my grammar/)

{'e' vIppIHbe' jInajtaHvIS je} /that (previous sentence) I didn't expect,
while dreaming, too/ (I wanted to work the word of the day back into the
thread, and fell back on a cliche, "not even in my dreams." I considered
{neH} instead of {je}, but it seemed like that would mean my lack of
expectation is restricted to dreams. Is it just me (you'll probably say it
is, Qov) or is there a shortage of adverbials?

qama'pu' DISop'a'? 'ey'a' tlhejtaHvIS qetttlhup? (Actually {qama'pu' DISop
'e' chaw'} makes more sense: he/she permits us to eat, not to be able to
eat.)
QIp chut 'e' Har Mr. Bumble. Ha'DIbaH nuq QIp law', Hoch QIp puS?
<paqwIj Soppu' targh> jatlh puq. ghiq puq moq ghojmoHwI'.

~'eD


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:

> ngaj Daj pIlmoHlaw' nab QaghmeywIj****
>
> 'e' vIpIHbe' jInajtaHvIS je****
>
> maj****
>
> SughoHtaHjaj 'ej maHvam QIjjaj matlh****
>
> ** **
>
> Wow, I’m not getting any of that. ****
>
> ** **
>
> short ... interesting ... inspire ... when I dreamed too, I didn’t expect
> my errors to plan. Fine. May you continue to argue and may matlh explain
> this us.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Okay, I got the end, you meant maHvaD, not maHvam, so “to us.”****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> The need exists to express the gist of what someone said without quoting.
> Perhaps it's too long to quote, or the actual words are not known with
> certainty, but the intended meaning is clear. Klingons value exactness and
> brevity, and don't want to waste time or misquote someone. An indirect
> quote allows one to get across what was said without implying that it's an
> exact quote. A backdoor way might be something like {jatlh la'. qama'pu'
> neH la'} or for that matter {qama' DIjon 'e' ra' la'}.****
>
> ** **
>
> Right, use a non verb of saying, don’t try to say what they said, just
> what the effect was.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> HeghnIS Hoch romuluSngan ‘e’ maq.****
>
> ** **
>
> qama’pu’ DISoplaH ‘e’ chaw’.****
>
> ** **
>
> QIp chut ‘e’ Har.****
>
> ** **
>
> paqDaj Soppu’ targh ‘e’ QIj puq.****
>
> ** **
>
> The conversation Felix quoted seems to leave the issue open. I wouldn't
> bet too heavily against Maltz either way.****
>
> ** **
>
> ~'eD
>
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