[Tlhingan-hol] Translation help

Felix Malmenbeck felixm at kth.se
Sat Jun 15 08:23:46 PDT 2013


> Many of the suggestions have obviously been similar so I don't really
> remember what's already been said, but I think my vote would go for,
> <roj DaneHchugh vaj bIQojnISrup>, "If you want peace, then you must
> be ready to make war."

Not permissible, I'm afraid; you're using two Type-2 verb suffixes (-nIS and -rup).

> Well, actually, I still like <veS> instead of <noH>...
> <roj DaneHchugh, veS yIghuHchoH>

I'm torn between noH and veS. I like veS because it's not a particular war one needs to be prepared for, but at the same time, it does feel like one is talking about concrete wars, not warfare as a concept.

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From: David Holt [kenjutsuka at live.com]
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Many of the suggestions have obviously been similar so I don't really remember what's already been said, but I think my vote would go for, <roj DaneHchugh vaj bIQojnISrup>, "If you want peace, then you must be ready to make war."

janSIy

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:00:29 +0100
From: fiat_knox at yahoo.co.uk
To: fiat_knox at yahoo.co.uk; tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Translation help

> Si vis pacem, para bellum
> If you want peace, prepare for war

roj DaneHchugh vaj yIQojrup - "If you want peace, prepare to wage war" works for me.
Also, to state this without an imperative prefix - roj DaneHchugh vaj bIQojrup - is like stating "If you want peace, then you are ready to wage war." The same construction as bIje'be'chugh vaj bIHegh - "If you are not buying, then you are dying."

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