[Tlhingan-hol] Dothraki nugh vIghal

[Noah Bogart]

>And if not, what is the basis for that privilege, if not uniqueness?

Achievements. The organization and thus the people within have shown
themselves to be well-suited for the task. The community at large supports
their work, and their consistency has earned them trust and respect.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:19 PM, David Trimboli <david at trimboli.name>wrote:

> On 4/10/2013 6:05 PM, Lieven wrote:
>
>>
>> ja' SuStel:
>>  > It's not half-official or quasi-official or even a little bit official.
>>
>>> Most of the world has no idea that the KLI exists, even if they know
>>> that Klingon exists.
>>>
>>>  Everyone accepts translations by the KLI,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone? Really? How have you determined that?
>>>
>>
>> Okay, you are right that the KLI is just a PO-Box owned by some unknown
>> star trek fan and author who has a special permission to use the word
>> Klingon without being sewed.
>>
>
> Lawrence isn't unknown; he's well-known as that Klingon Guy. But being
> well known doesn't grant you officiating power over an artificial language
> created by someone else.
>
>
>  But don't you have the little feeling that the KLI does have at least a
>> little "sense" or "touch" of some kind of officialness?
>>
>
> No.
>
>
>  wikipedia is listing KLI as the regulator of Klingon. I should cross
>> that line immediately, since that's not right.
>>
>
> "This article needs additional citations for verification." Anyway, where
> does that article say the KLI regulates Klingon?
>
> Basically, your argument comes down to, "Yeah, but, well, you know..."
>
>
>  Talking about translations. Apparently not everyone accepts translations
>> by the KLI, but it does make them look better when they are translated
>> by it. Why? Because the KLI is the only "club" who knows Klingon?
>>
>
> Peter Jackson looks better for getting David Salo to translate Elvish for
> his films... because he's a well-known translator. Not the only translator,
> and not an "authorized" translator.
>
>
>  Summary:
>> Even though the KLI might have no power about Klingon, I feel it like
>> being the only worldwide club/community/institute that is somehow
>> related to klingon, no matter what you call it - official or not official.
>>
>
> I call it "not official," and that means something different than
> "official." It does matter.
>
> So what happens if I created a new organization for studying and
> translating Klingon? If the KLI is no longer the only organization (an
> assertion I haven't seen any reason to accept) dealing with the language,
> does it lose its privileged Klingon-regulator status? And if not, what is
> the basis for that privilege, if not uniqueness?
>
> Why should an organization whose stated purpose is to *study* and
> *promote* the Klingon language want to *regulate* it?
>
>
>  Nobody has ever said that there must be only one qep'a', right?   :- P
>>
>
> Certainly not! The KLI does not own a trademark on the word.
>
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> SuStel
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>
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