<div dir="ltr"><div>>And if not, what is the basis for that privilege, if not uniqueness?<br><br></div>Achievements. The organization and thus the people within have shown themselves to be well-suited for the task. The community at large supports their work, and their consistency has earned them trust and respect.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:19 PM, David Trimboli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@trimboli.name" target="_blank">david@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On 4/10/2013 6:05 PM, Lieven wrote:<br>
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ja' SuStel:<br>
> It's not half-official or quasi-official or even a little bit official.<br>
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Most of the world has no idea that the KLI exists, even if they know<br>
that Klingon exists.<br>
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Everyone accepts translations by the KLI,<br>
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Everyone? Really? How have you determined that?<br>
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Okay, you are right that the KLI is just a PO-Box owned by some unknown<br>
star trek fan and author who has a special permission to use the word<br>
Klingon without being sewed.<br>
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Lawrence isn't unknown; he's well-known as that Klingon Guy. But being well known doesn't grant you officiating power over an artificial language created by someone else.<div class="im"><br>
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But don't you have the little feeling that the KLI does have at least a<br>
little "sense" or "touch" of some kind of officialness?<br>
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No.<div class="im"><br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
wikipedia is listing KLI as the regulator of Klingon. I should cross<br>
that line immediately, since that's not right.<br>
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"This article needs additional citations for verification." Anyway, where does that article say the KLI regulates Klingon?<br>
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Basically, your argument comes down to, "Yeah, but, well, you know..."<div class="im"><br>
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Talking about translations. Apparently not everyone accepts translations<br>
by the KLI, but it does make them look better when they are translated<br>
by it. Why? Because the KLI is the only "club" who knows Klingon?<br>
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Peter Jackson looks better for getting David Salo to translate Elvish for his films... because he's a well-known translator. Not the only translator, and not an "authorized" translator.<div class="im"><br>
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Summary:<br>
Even though the KLI might have no power about Klingon, I feel it like<br>
being the only worldwide club/community/institute that is somehow<br>
related to klingon, no matter what you call it - official or not official.<br>
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I call it "not official," and that means something different than "official." It does matter.<br>
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So what happens if I created a new organization for studying and translating Klingon? If the KLI is no longer the only organization (an assertion I haven't seen any reason to accept) dealing with the language, does it lose its privileged Klingon-regulator status? And if not, what is the basis for that privilege, if not uniqueness?<br>
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Why should an organization whose stated purpose is to *study* and *promote* the Klingon language want to *regulate* it?<div class="im"><br>
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Nobody has ever said that there must be only one qep'a', right? :- P<br>
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Certainly not! The KLI does not own a trademark on the word.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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SuStel<br>
<a href="http://www.trimboli.name/" target="_blank">http://www.trimboli.name/</a></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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