It's been a running gag that the line from Galaxy Quest, "Never give up; never surrender," comes out in Klingon as {not yIjegh; not yIjegh}. I was just considering this, and decided that a translation truer to the sentiment would be {not Qu'vaD yIjegh; not jaghvaD yIjegh}. -- SuStel http://www.trimboli.name/