[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa' vatlh chorghmaH cha': rewbe' Qu'

Robyn Stewart robyn at flyingstart.ca
Tue May 22 13:25:41 PDT 2012


muD Duj verghDaq,Qe'HomDaq megh vutlu'taHvIS vIqonlI'. 

On 2012-05-22, at 11:44, "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:

> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
>> 'ay''a' wa'maH
>> 182
>> rewbe' Qu'
> 
> (Is this trying to refer to "civilian" again?)

ghobe' ... Da Sov. 

>> juHDaj ravDaq Ha'DIbaH Surghta'bogh chagh 'eSSIm 'ej qabDaq qIp'egh. moghmo'
>> jachchoH. quvqu'law'pu' vajar beqDaj je. yoH 'ej nong 'ej jaq 'ej HoS. quv
>> qelDI' ghutar, nuv ta'mey qel. maghwI' ghaH 'eSSIm vav 'e' SovchoH ghutar,
>> 'eSSIm lonbe'law'.
> 
> <-DI'> poQlaw' <SovchoH>.

-chugh vIHech 'ach DaHmo' -choH, nIS 'ej bong -chugh vInop. 

>> 'oy'Hey pegh ghajmo' Hota'ro', chaq 'eSSIm 'oy' yajlaH.
>> Hut tup ret wej juppu' chu' ghajmo' Quch 'eSSIm. DaH wej maghwI'pu'Hey
>> tlhejpu'. 'Iw HIq ngaSwI' poSmoH 'eSSIm 'ej tlhutlhchoH.
> 
> qatlh ngaSwI'vaD bal Dapongbe'?

I thought a bal was more of a jug. It's a bottle, too?

>> Sa' luHoH 'e' lunabba'. choltaHvIS 'eSSIm jatlhbej ghutar <qImyal Sa'
>> wIHoH>. taDchoHpu' 'eSSIm 'ej Qochbe'bej latlhpu'. ja'chuqtaHvIS mIw
>> luqelchoH neH. tlhIngan wo' Sa' Hegh lunablI' 'ej chaHvaD chemvaH Hegh rur.
> 
> chay' "fantasy" wImughlaH?

mu'meyvetlh'e' Qoybejpu' 'eSSIm.

>> reH ghoqwI'pu' QuSwI'pu' je nejtaH 'eSSIm, 'ach DaH bong QuSwI'na' Samta'.
> 
> <'avwI' nejDI' narghta'bogh qama' reH 'avwI' Sambej.>

pup. 

>> quvlaw' 'ach quvlaw'pu' vavoy, 'ej maghwI''a' ghaHpu'.
>> 
>> 'eSSIm Du'Daq chaHpu'mo' maghwI'pu', luqoplu'DI' ghaytan 'eSSIm yu'qa' QI'.
> 
> yu'lu' neHbe'mo', QuSwI'Hey buSHa'qang'a'?

bel luqembe'bej yu'wI'pu' 'ach 'utbe' bel 'e' Sov 'eSSIm. 
 
>> qaStaHvIS 'eSSIm yIn pIj yu'ta' QI'. loS ben boghpu'DI' 'eSSIm luyu'ta'
>> yaSpu', 'ach pagh Sovpu'. maghwI' ghaHpu' tarven'e' 'ach QuSbe'pu' qorDu'
>> vengHom joq tagha' 'e' tlhoj QI', vaj mejpu'.
> 
> QuSpu' be'Hom Qupqu' net Qub'a'? chaq De' nub Qoy 'ej qaw, 'ach QuSqu'be'bej.

matlhbe'chugh SoS, chaq vay' Sov puq.  nepchugh puq tu'laH yu'wI' 'ej ghaytan nep 'e' ra' SoS. mebpu' nov DellaH puq.    QuSwI' jIHchugh, puqwI' yu' QI' vIneHbe'bej. 

>> reH lengDI' 'eSSIm pagh QeD
>> jInmol chu' taghDI' luyu'qa'.
> 
> "qaStaHvIS wej puq poHmey vav puqloDpu' puqloDpu'chaj je quvHa'moH vav
> quvHa'ghach." vaj qatlh puqbe''e' nuQ'a'?

no'wI' HolvaD <nuv> 'oSmo' <loD>, puqbe' noplaw' vIttlheghvetlh not 'e' vItu'. 'a bIqID, qar'a'? be'pu' SIgh je chutvetlh 'e' DaHon'a'?

>> peghmey Hutlhpu'mo' 'eSSIm qay'qu'be', 'ach
>> DaH vay' pegh. Mahoun peghtaH 'ej Mahoun DeS peghnISchu'taH. MahounDaq De'
>> So'taH 'eSSIm net SovchoHchugh qay'qu'. 'eSSIm qoplu' 'ej Mahoun ...
> 
>> not qaSbogh wanI'mey ghu'mey je 'oghmegh, valqu' 'eSSIm yab.
> 
> <'oghmegh> vIyajlaHbe'. chaq <'oghmeH> lughItlhHa' nItlhlIj.

HIja'. <H> leQ vISIchlI' 'a bong <gh> leQ vImup. 

>> MahounDaq De'
>> tu'lu' 'e' SovchoHchugh latlhpu', Mahoun quchlaH QaS 'ej latlh De' SammeH
>> porghDaj 'IH pe'laHchu', HeghtaHvIS. Mahoun Qan neHqu' 'eSSIm. tlhoS
>> QuSwI'pu' tu'be'pu'. Qoybe'pu' 'e' DalaH. lupumchugh QuSwI'pu' Har 'Iv?
> 
> buSHa'meH meqDaj HoS law' meqHom vIloybogh HoS puS.

maj. 

>> 'ach tlhIngan matlhqu' ghaH 'eSSIm'e'. 'ej chaq QuS teH 'oHbe'. chaq 'eSSIm
>> qaDmeH QuSwI'pu' Da vajar, ghutar Hota'ro' je 'e' ra' QI'. matlh 'eSSIm 'e'
>> tobta'DI' QI', yaS mojlaH 'eSSIm. pagh chegh vavDaj 'ej ...
> 
> (chal vIbejchoH. puvbogh targh vIlegh jIH vIneHbej.)

'eSSImvaD ngeDqu'. 

>> qechvetlh QIp qIl 'eSSIm. rewbe' Qu' ta'choH. 'Iw HIq tlhutlhpu'DI', QumwI'
>> chu' 'ej *veS* rI'. meHDaq jang Sogh. jatlhpu' Hota'ro', <HoHqang 'op>.
>> jatlh 'eSSIm, "qImyal Sa'vaD peghbogh De' potlhqu' vIjatlhnIS."[225]
> 
> pegh 'ej potlh. paj je 'e' vIpIH.

pav DaghItlhHa''a'?

> (And now I see that {rewbe'} is a perfectly good word to label this duty.)

maj. Sa' QannIS rewbe'. 

'ay''a'vam DatIv 'e' vItul. rut taQ 'ach SeymoH 'ej ralqu'be'. 

- Qov 


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