[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh vaghmaH wej: <maghwI' QIn>

[Robyn Stewart]

bIjangDI' jISeychoH. laDwI' HutlhtaHvIS wej yIn lut.

At 13:42 '?????' 3/14/2012, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh wrote:
>DaHjaj loQ lut vIbuSlaH.
>
>On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> > jatlh Qugh. "maghwI' ghaH net Sovpa', tlhIngan yejquv DevwI'vaD[136] QIn
> > pegh vIngeH 'e' qoy'. HevnIS Qa'bar DevwI'.[140]"
>
>"Councillor Crowbar"?

choHaghmoH. meqwIj vIQIjta' 'ach qechvetlh vItIv je.

> > "jatlh <SIbI' DangeHlaHchugh negh DatoD 'ach
> > bIloSnISchugh yIngeHbej. wo' DatoD>.
>
>HoSghaj mo'vetlh.

lach'a'?

> > reH Dughlaw' loDvetlh. qar. 'urmangDaj
> > vIpIHbe'chu'mo' vIvoq.
>
>'urwI'na' ghaHbej, DaH net lajba'.

QInmey pegh lab je 'urwI'pu'.

> > QIn vIlaj. De' 'aplo' machqu' 'oH. 'aplo' mach law'
> > qanwI'lIj nItlhpach mach rap.
>
>MicroSD qawHaq 'oHlaw'.

vIqontaHvIS not MicroSD vIleghpu'. SD motlh vIwoH 'ej loDnalwI'vaD 
jIjatlh, "De' pegh QummeH tlhIngan  De' 'aplo' machqu' lo'. Dochvam 
rur 'ach tlhIngan De' 'aplo' mach law' Dochvam mach puS. 
DaHarlaH'a'?" vaj qechwIj 'ol.

> > mep 'oH. ngugh SID De' qonmeH Hoqra'Daq De'
> > 'aplo' Seghvetlh lo'lu'."[237]
>
>'ol.

majQa'!

> > qanwI'Daj nuDchoH 'eSSIm. De' 'aplo' Seghvetlh qaw. puq ghaHtaHvIS QIn
> > labDI' vavoy rurbogh De' 'aplo'Daq pol SoSoy. maghwI' ghaH 'e' luSovchoHDI'
> > Hoch Qaw'ta' 'eSSIm SoS.
>
>qulDaq bang QIn navmey woDlu' 'e' rur.

rurbej!  chaq qulDaq Qaw'.

> > jatlh Qel, "De' vISo'meH 'aplo'Daq SID per vIlan 'ej Qel 
> Hoqra'wIjDaq vIjom.
> > ngugh cha'Hu' cha' 'avwI'pu'vetlh chotta'mo' qama', maw'choHlaw'pu' Hung."
>
>I didn't stumble at {ngugh cha'Hu'}, and only noticed that it might be
>controversial when I translated it. I think the usage is fine.

maj. lutvamvaD wejmaH wej ben qaSmo' HochHom, 'ut rurbogh mIwmey.

> > "SIDwI' veb vIghoStaHvIS muyu' 'ej luchwIj lunuD. tarven De' vIpoltaHmo'
> > jIbItchoH. De' 'aplo' luleghDI'--"
> >
> > chegh Mahoun,
>
>-- Qu'vatlh!

'eSSIm yab DalaD.

> > chegh Mahoun, bIQ ngaSbogh HIvje' tIn qengtaHvIS. SaQbe'law'pu'.
>
>vIt Mahoun. mumerbe'. I didn't recognize the idiom in the previous 
>installment anyway.

I found it accidentally while looking for inspiration.

> > bejqu' 'eSSIm 'e' tu'DI' jatlh, "Dumaw'a' bIQwIj?"
> >
> > jatlh 'eSSIm, "maja'chuqnIS Qugh jIH je. yImej."[138]
>
>pIQmo' 'eSSIm QaQ ghu'.

motlh pIQ ghaH. I'm pretty sure it didn't even occur to her to come 
up with an excuse.

> > jatlh Qugh, "Qo'. yIratlh, Mahoun. Dubop."
>
>chay'!?

}}:-) !

> > morghbe'DI' 'eSSIm ba'choH
> > Mahoun. jatlhtaH Qugh, "vaj may'DujDaq jIHtaH, Hoqra'wIj vIqengtaHvIS, 'ej
> > SID vIghoSlI' ..."
>
>"...'ej 'uS Hom neH vIyan!"
>
>jItlhIj. It just reminded me of a glorious tale of battle.

jIyajchu'.

> > qagh 'eSSIm. jatlh "'ach Hoqra'Daq De' 'aplo' luleghDI' 'avwI'pu' ..."
> >
> > jatlh Qel, "Hoqra' luleghpu'. lut yIqaghQo'. 'avwI'pa'Daq SIDwI' vISuchlI'.
> > mInDaj rIQbogh wanI''e' Delqangbe'chu'. mIn moQ tapta' vay'.[139]"
>
>'oy'!

naSlaH may'Duj yIn.

An earlier draft had more description, but the imagination is just as painful.

>The use of {-ta'} instead of {-pu'} is striking. It leads me to
>translate {vay'} as "someone" rather than "something".
>
> > "'oy'qu'ba'
> > 'ej bong qaSbe'"
>
>maj, chIch {-ta'} Dalo'ta'.
>
> > "'ach wanI' peghchu'. mIn vItoDlaHbe'. mIn vIHotlhDI' bong
> > De' 'aplo' mujDaq vIqon. De' 'aplo' vItam ghIq qarwI' vIlo'.
>
>vaj De' potlh Qaw'pu''a' jay'?

It did lead to a discussion of Star Trek file formats with my 
engineer/writer friend. "Oh yeah, Star Trek uses linear data storage, 
don't they?" she said.

> > "ghIq murI'ta' meH. ngaq DujDaq roplaw' qama'. *naQjej yoH*Daq qama'pu'
> > lutu'lu'be' 'e' vIHar. qama' ta vInejDI' vISam. DujvetlhDaq wa' qama'
> > weghlu'. nonchoH qama' DeSDu' jatlhpu' 'avwI'."
>
>tugh ghom muv'a' 'avwI'vetlh?

chaaaq.

> > "jIHlaw'," jatlh Mahoun.
>
>I'm not sure I can describe my reaction adequately. A pronoun-as-verb
>without a stated object...tastes sour.
>
> > "SoHbej," jatlh Qugh.
>
>Perhaps {jIHHey} and {SoHna'}?

I can do that.

> > "Hoch qama' De' Hutlh ta. mut, mI' qoj qonbe'lu'.
> > Qo'noSDaq yejquv DevwI' Qa'barvaD qama' ngeHlu'lI'."
>
>nubchoH wanI'mey quq.

not napchoH ghu'.

- Qov