[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh vaghmaH wa': <nuch 'ollu'pu'>

Qov robyn at flyingstart.ca
Wed Mar 7 15:41:34 PST 2012


At 12:53 '?????' 3/7/2012, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh wrote:
>toH, DaHjaj loQ poH vISeHbogh vItIv.
>
>On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> > 151
>
>law'qu'!

mach Hoch 'ay', 'ach tay'taHvIS lut tIqmoH.

> > 'utbe' Haq 'e' wuq 'ach 'eSSIm tlhonDaq nejwI' DuQta'
>
>It's been a very long time since I had a chance to read these.

nInIStaH qoqmeyraj De'wI'raj lungejlu'bogh je.

>Did I
>mention yet my belief that the object of {DuQ} is the target and not
>the instrument?

ngervetlh vIqawbe' 'ach SIbI' vIlaj. muDuQ Soj, vaj 'eSSIm tlhonvaD 
nejwI' DuQmoHta' Qel, qar'a'?

> > pIj lutvetlh ngeb jatlhpu'mo', 'eSSIm jatDajvaD ngeD. ghIq
> > jatlh Qel, "ngugh *lotlhwI'*Daq jItoy'. tarven[231] vISovpu'."
>
>nuv 'oS <tarven>, SIbI' 'e' vIyaj. Duj 'oS <lotlhwI'> 'e' vItlhojpa'
>jIbuSqu'nIS.

potlh Dangu'pu'. {ngugh may'Duj *lotlhwI'*Daq jItoy'.}

> > tarven. vavoy. pongvetlh ja' 'e' ngIlbe' 'eSSIm.
>
>naDev <jatlh> QaQ law' <ja'> QaQ puS 'e' vIbej.

jIQochbe'. qen beppu'mo' vay' DujwIj vIvoqHa'taH.

> > jatlh, "HoH'eghta' maghwI' net ja'."
>
>It's weird to see {ja'} used that way. TKD tells us that {'e'} and
>{net} are not used with verbs of saying. Perhaps substitute {joS} or
>{maq}?

bIlugh. QaghHeyvetlh vItu'be'pu'mo' jIbuDlaw'pu'.

> > maghwI' muSbogh rewbe''e' Dachu', 'ach vav jup ghaHpu' Qel'e' 'e'
> > tul 'eSSIm. chaq Qu' le' ta'meH tarven boQpu' Qel.
>
>tulnIS tulwI'. (chaq tel rIQmoH puvbogh targh 'ej vor Qel.)

reH 'eb tu'lu'.

>tuHmoHqu'.

Heghvetlh quvHa' law' Hoch quvHa' puS.

> > SeH'egh 'e' nID  'eSSIm. ngoDmeyHeyvetlh 'ol neHqu' 'ach pay' 
> Hoch 'olpu'mo'
> > Qel, DaH tullaHbe'taH 'eSSIm.
>
>(...'ej tulbe'nIS tullaHbe'wI'.)

ghaytan tultaH.

> > jatlhqa' Qel, "SorghwI' ghaHchoHDI' mumerqu'. maghwI'
> > ghaHpa' batlh toy'law'. ngerwIj vIjatlh: qorDu'Daj buQ vay'. puqbe'Daj mach
> > QanmeH Heghqangbej."
>
>puq QanmeH Hegh. vIt tunmoHlaH wIch. 'ej rut teH wIch.

'ach DIvmoHlaH je lutvetlh.

> > letHa' Qel ghogh. yur ghaHbe' tarven'e' 'e' Sovlaw'
> > Qel. 'ach 'eSSIm pumbe'.
>
>Dun QongDaq retlh mIwDaj.

mIwvtlh qeqmeH 'ebmey law' much Duj toy'bogh.

> > mejmeH lojmIt poSmoHDI' Qel, SaH Mahoun. vay' chagh Mahoun 'ej DoHqu'.
>
>mob'a' Mahoun? bIttaH HungpInDaj 'e' vISIv.

bIttaHbej 'ach ngeplaH pInDaj.

> > "yIHaw'Qo'! QelwI' ghaH!" jatlh 'eSSIm.
>
>toH, ghu' yajHa'laH vay'.
>
> > QumwI' 'uchtaH Mahoun ghop 'ach ratlhtaH. lojmItDaq bejchuq Mahoun Qel je.
> > jatlhtaH Mahoun, "qaSuvbe'. Suy jIH. tlhIngan DuyvaD Sutmey vIngev.
> > SaSujba'lI'. jIcheghlaH." DoHtaH Mahoun.
>
>SujlI'be', 'ach qaghbejpu' Mahoun. lojmItDaq Qambe'chugh, mejta' Qel.

lImchoHmo' qelbe'law' Mahoun!

> > jatlh Qel, "vIt Duy. Qel jIH. Qugh 'oH pongwIj'e'. yelwIyyItngan SoH,
> > qar'a'?" nov buQbe'meH Qel quSDaq ba'choH.
>
>Dunqu' QongDaq retlh mIwDaj.

Dujmey law' chIjpu' 'ej nuvpu' Sar vuvlaH 'e' vImuch.

> > DeSDu' nuDta'DI' Qugh 'ej Hotlhta'DI'
> > jatlh "SIDwI' SoHpu', maHun. tlhIngan bIghHa'Daq DeSDu'lIj vIQorghta'."
>
>yay'!

naQchoHlI' gho. :-)

- Qov 




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