[Tlhingan-hol] Newbie question about vIneHbogh construction

[Wiechu]

tujangpu' 'e' vItlho'.

SuStel QIn vIlaDpu'DI' QaghwIj vIyaj.

wa' mu'tlheghDaq bogh neH latlh wot je vIlo' 'e' QaQbe' qech.

vIlatlhmeH cha' DuHmey vIlo'laH 'e' vIQub.

1) Qov DuH: Dochmey vIleghnISbogh.

2) loghaD DuH: vIleghmeH Dochmey vIneHbogh.

qatlh pong wot lo'taH SuStel, vIyajbe'.

nuQ SuQub ?

vIQos vIQaghchugh, taghwI' jIH.

--
Wiechu


2012/1/25 Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>

> FYI we have two examples of {neHbogh} in canon:
>
>  vay' DaneHbogh yIchargh
>  Conquer what you desire. TKW
>
>  nuH DaneHbogh yIngu'!
>  Which weapon do you want?
>  ("Identify the weapon that you want!")
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philip Newton [mailto:philip.newton at gmail.com]
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 23:45, Wiechu <ddanecki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I wan to say in Klingon: "Things I want to see" or "Things which I
> >> want to see"
> >>
> >> I came with this: Dochmey vIlegh vIneHbogh.
> >
> > Perhaps one way of looking at this is to remember that {Dochmey vIlegh
> > vIneH} is (as I understand it) two separate sentences: {Dochmey
> > vIlegh} and {vIneH}. With other verbs than {neH}, you need {'e'},
> > which makes this clearer - for example, "I see you eat gagh" would be
> > {qagh DaSop 'e' vIlegh} ("You eat gagh; I see that"). Translating that
> > as "I see you eat gagh" is idiomatically better English but doesn't
> > reflect the structure of the Klingon particularly well.
> >
> > So what you're wanting is to access something from the first sentence
> > *out of* the second sentence. I'm not sure whether that works -
> > {vIneHbogh} would probably either relativise its subject ("The I that
> > wants; I who want") or its objects, which I guess is {'e'}: "The fact
> > of 'I see things' that I want".
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Philip
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tlhingan-hol mailing list
> Tlhingan-hol at stodi.digitalkingdom.org
> http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol/attachments/20120126/314284ff/attachment.html>