[Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries

[Josh Badgley]

I have to agree...overal, great job with the country names.  As an Indophile, my heart lept when I saw barat under the Indian flag.  I don't find qa'naDa' nearly as difficult as 'amerI'qa' SepjIjQa', because I keep forgetting the ' after the rI', so instead I say 'amerIqa' SepjIjQa'...it's a tough one, but still very cool to finally have a name for my country.  ne'Derlan is another tough one for me, mainly because it's diffucult for me to pronounce a retroflex D and then roll my r right afterwards.  I think turIqya' is pretty accurate, and portughal and 'eSpanya' sound more like the actual names of the countries than the English versions do. majQa'
-- jhb

 > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:18:31 -0700
> To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> From: robyn at flyingstart.ca
> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries
> 
> My comments on the list ...
> 
> First of all there's a big jolt of happiness because I have long 
> advocated for using the native names of countries--and I see that 
> qe'San has just posted saying that my input was considered there, so 
> I'm leaping around in pride. jImIybe'. jIHem neH.
> 
> Also Marc did proper research on many that I didn't, making me wish 
> I'd done the research all those years ago.
> 
> >Canada - qa'naDa'
> 
> I find it a little hard to say!  I want to say qanaDa or qa'na'Da' or 
> qa'naDa or qa'NaDa' instead.
> 
> >Finland - SuwomIy
> 
> Love it!  Especially as I never was sure I was pronouncing Suomi 
> correctly, and here it is: Klingons pronounce it just like I do.
> 
> >France - vIraS
> 
> It's fine for an English pronunciation and grand for the proper 
> French pronunciation, too. I can really see a Klingon listening to 
> France and writing down vIraS.
> 
> >Germany - DoyIchlan
> 
> At first, and when you listen to the CD ROM it looks like a fine 
> match for Deutchland (sp? sorry) but when you consider Klingon 
> syllabification, it can't not be Do-yIch-lan. Can the oy dipthong be 
> formed across a syllable boundary?  "y'all wield swords" is <'etlhmey 
> bo-yan> not <boy-an>. There must be a canon pronunciation of a 
> prefixed verb starting in w or y and I doubt there is a dipthong. So 
> it's Do-yIch-lan and not Doy-'IS-lan
> 
> >Greece - 'elaDya'
> 
> I love it.  I wish that were the English.
> 
> >New Zealand - nu'SIylan
> 
> Same comments as others re New not being translated, but the practice 
> of the surrounding nations makes me accept it as fine.
> 
> >Portugal - portughal
> 
> I called it that like 15 years ago. Booyah!
> 
> >Russia - raSya'
> 
> I was disappointed with this one. It sounds based on the English, not 
> the Russian.
> 
> >Spain - 'eSpanya'
> 
> I think I called that one, too.
> 
> >Sweden - Suverya'
> 
> Our resident Swede has already commended this.
> 
> >The Netherlands - ne'Derlan
> 
> I expected puH 'eS or the like, but I still like it.
> 
> >Turkey - turIqya'
> 
> I don't know Turkish, so have to trust that this one is accurate.
> 
> >United Kingdom - tuqjIjQa'
> >United States of America - 'amerI'qa' SepjIjQa'
> 
> I like these better now that the typo has been corrected. I tend to 
> say DIvI' not yuQjIjQa', but the three of them make a nice set.
> 
> I would definitely lean towards 'alba' and 'erIn for the kids.  Heck 
> you could actually NAME kids Alba and Erin without getting cited for 
> child abuse or having them neglected at school.
> 
> I'm especially excited by this post not just because it says I helped 
> a little, but because it means tomorrow I can start using the New Words.
> 
> - Qov 
> 
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