[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' vaghmaH vagh: <taS SuQ>‏

[Robyn Stewart]

At 11:15 17/10/2011, lab voragh:
>  >> >> I would think that *{'op Human} would also work here.
> > > To me, that would emphasize the fact that there are a number of humans
> > that dare eat these things, rather than the 
> fact that those who do are few.
>It might just be my dialect, but {'op} "some" 
>implies "few" or at least "not many".

To me "some" merely implies a number greater than 
zero and probably less than all. I would read 
{qagh Sopqang 'op Human} as confirming the 
existence of humans that will eat the stuff but 
{qagh Sopqang Human puS} as emphasizing the scarcity of such humans.

If I were told that of a ship with a crew 
complement of a hundred, {DujvamDaq Heghpu' 'op 
SuvwIpu'} I would expect to see between three and 
ninety body bags unloaded, but wouldn't consider 
the statement inaccurate unless there had been 
fewer than two deaths.  If everyone had died I 
would consider it more imprecise than inaccurate. 
Some for me is the opposite of none, not an indication of scarcity.

In a formal logic problem does "Some Q are X" 
necessarily imply that "There exist Q that are not X"?

So {Sung puS} and {Sung law'} are both {'op Sung}.

>Here's that S7 example again: 'ej DujvamDaq 'op 
>SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh po' law' tlhIngan yo' SuvwI' 
>law' po' puS It [IKC Pagh] has... some of the 
>finest warriors in the Klingon fleet. S7 
>{DujvamDaq 'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh} "some of the 
>warriors aboard this ship".  Not all of them, 
>not most of them, but some of them (whatever 
>their number). I think of {'op} as being the 
>opposite of {HochHom} "most, greater part", 
>which also appears in only one example: 
 
>qItI'nga' Duj.  tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH wej 
>HochHom lo'lu'taH [The] K'Tinga-class remained 
>in use for most of the 23rd century. S15 -- 
>Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons 
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