[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' vaghmaH vagh: <taS SuQ>‏

[David Trimboli]

On 10/17/2011 2:15 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:

>>> qagh, ro'qegh'Iwchab, targh tIq Sop 'e' lungIl Humanpu' puS Few
>>> humans dare to eat gagh, rokeg blood pie, or heart of targ. S21
>>>
>>> I would think that *{'op Human} would also work here.
>>
>> To me, that would emphasize the fact that there are a number of
>> humans that dare eat these things, rather than the fact that those
>> who do are few.
>
> It might just be my dialect, but {'op} "some" implies "few" or at
> least "not many".  Here's that S7 example again:
>
> 'ej DujvamDaq 'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh po' law' tlhIngan yo' SuvwI' law'
> po' puS It [IKC Pagh] has... some of the finest warriors in the
> Klingon fleet. S7
>
> {DujvamDaq 'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh} "some of the warriors aboard this
> ship".  Not all of them, not most of them, but some of them (whatever
> their number).
>
> I think of {'op} as being the opposite of {HochHom} "most, greater
> part", which also appears in only one example:
>
> … qItI'nga' Duj.  tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH wej HochHom lo'lu'taH
> [The] K'Tinga-class remained in use for most of the 23rd century.
> S15

I don't see why {'op} should imply "not many." It just means "some 
unspecified number between none and all." {'op} of something might be 
{HochHom} of something, or that {'op} of something might be {puS}. By 
itself, {'op} doesn't say.

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