[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: SuH

Wed Mar 30 04:03:04 PDT 2016

Consider the implied object of "prepare for, be alerted to" is the thing you must focus your attention on. Adding {-egh} makes you both subject and object of the verb. {jIqIp'egh} means I hit myself. I'm the hitter and the one hit. 

{jIghuH'egh}, as Sustel explains, means you are the one being alerted and the thing you are being alerted to. You are the one preparing and the one being prepared for. It might have worked as {ghuH'eghmoH}, so you'd be the one causing yourself to be prepared (for something else), but the suffix {-rup} is much more direct. The focus should be more on acting than preparing to act. Preparation is so common for a Klingon that it can be built into any verb with a suffix. 

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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:42 AM, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> SuStel De'vID je, thank you for taking the time to reply.
> 
> jIH :
>> mu' {SuH} DaQoyDI' bIvangmeH bIghuH'eghnIS 'e' DatlhojnIS yaS Qup.
> young officer, you need to realize that when you hear the word {SuH}
> you need to prepare yourself in order to act.
> SuStel :
>> I think {ghuH'egh} means "be alerted to yourself." Try {bIvangnISrup} "you
>> need to be ready to act" or {yIvangrup} "be ready to act!"
> 
> your suggestions are -as always- very interesting ; the reason I chose
> {ghuH}, is because according to TKD and Star Trek III {ghuH} is given
> as "prepare for, be alerted to". So, I thought that {bIghuH'eghnIS}
> could be used as well, in order to express the "you need to prepare
> yourself for". However though, after reading your alternate
> suggestions I too would prefer the {bIvangnISrup}.
> 
> SuStel :
>> This sentence looks correct, but your sentences are generally getting more loquacious than I would expect
> 
> This puzzles me too ; Until some time -in the not so distant past-
> whenever I came across the need to say anything, my mind instantly
> became tied to a knot. A few days now, as if a switch had been flipped
> in my head, that knot became untied, and whenever I want to say
> anything all those alternate versions of it, just occur to me.
> 
> I don't know if this is good or bad, and if I wrote a passage, where I
> would not provide the english translation as well, I would try to be
> less loquacious (if I understand this word properly). However, for the
> purpose of training, I think it is good to try and write a bit
> loquaciously, in order to push oneself further for the purpose of
> improvement. ..something similar to the "more sweat in training, less
> blood in combat". Anyway, this isn't something which is happening on
> purpose, so I don't think I could influence it somehow.
> 
> moving on, and after my careless prefix and suffix mistakes, I liked
> your comment on the {HoDlI' jIHbogh} ; in fact I liked your proposed
> way of expressing it {chIvo'lIj wIcherghqangbe' jIH--HoDlI'--beq
> vInDa'lI' je} so much, that I will add this to my notes !
> 
> jIH :
>> SoHvaD wa' neH 'eb vI'nob. bItoD'eghmeH wa' neH 'eb.. DujDaq pIqlIj
>> Sum bopbogh 'eb. toH yIQub 'ej yIyep..
> SuStel :
>> I always hesitate before applying adverbial {neH} to a number. Yes, they
>> act like nouns sometimes, but we've never seen such a thing in canon.
> 
> thanks for telling me this ; I didn't know.
> 
> jIH :
>> SoHvaD wa' neH 'eb vI'nob. bItoD'eghmeH wa' neH 'eb.. DujDaq pIqlIj
> Sum bopbogh 'eb. toH yIQub 'ej yIyep..
> SuStel :
>> {DujDaq pIqlIj Sum bopbogh 'eb} means "on the ship, opportunity which
>> is all about your near future." I don't think that was what you were going for.
>> Beware of trying to say "your future on this ship"; *{DujvamDaq pIqlIj} (assuming
>> we can use {pIq} this way) is an illegal noun-noun construction.
> 
> oh yes. you're right on everything.. I just checked and verified that
> {bop} means "be about, be concerned with" and not "concerns". and of
> course we can't have a noun-noun construction where the first noun has
> a type 5 suffix.
> 
> jIH :
>> DujvamvaD tugh bIDub'egh pagh HIchDal HurDaq qapolHa'. wIvlIj 'oH
> SuStel :
>> {polHa'}? How about {vo'}?
> 
> this will sound silly bordering on stupid, but I wanted explicitly to
> specify that "he would be thrown out of the airlock, into space".
> while I was writing, momentarily, I thought that by using {-vo'}, one
> could reason that he was thrown away from the airlock, but into the
> ship. As soon as I pressed "send" and the mail was sent, I heard
> myself telling me "how stupid can you be ? unless he lives outside of
> the jay' airlock, how could someone throw him away from it, and into
> the ship ?". What can I say ? The stupid part of myself frequently
> takes over..
> 
> jIH :
>> chIvo'lI' wIcherghqangbe' HoDlI' jIHbogh beq vInDa' je DaH 'e' Datlhojbej.
> De'vID :
>> Perhaps {'e' DatlhojnISqu'} is better.
>> {'e' DatlhojnISbej} means something like "I'm certain you need to realise that".
>> Is that the meaning intended?
> 
> I just saw it. I wanted to express the "you really need to realize
> that.." and I wrote instead "you definitely need to realize that". I
> should have used {-qu'} instead of {-bej} !
> 
> mayqel mIv Hurgh qunnoq
> you have some stuffed to'baj leg in your teeth
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:12 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> mayqI qunenoS:
>>>> chIvo'lI' wIcherghqangbe' HoDlI' jIHbogh beq vInDa' je DaH 'e'
>>>> Datlhojbej.
>>>> now, you really need to realize that neither I who am your captain nor
>>>> your fellow crewmen, are willing to tolerate your complete lack of
>>>> honor.
>> 
>> SuStel:
>>> "You really need to realize that" is {'e' DatlhojnISbej}.
>> 
>> Perhaps {'e' DatlhojnISqu'} is better.
>> 
>> {'e' DatlhojnISbej} means something like "I'm certain you need to realise
>> that". Is that the meaning intended?
>> 
>> --
>> De'vID
>> 
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