[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: van bom

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> No one ever discouraged {bIngwIj} until we learned to say {jIH bIng}

what is this ? what does this refer to ?

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:58 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 3/24/2016 3:30 PM, lojmIttI'wI'nuv wrote:
>>
>> I don’t have the source materials with me, but what I show for {ret} and
>> {pIq} both cite HolQeD volume 8, number 3, page 3 with the note “follows
>> time unit” and “follows time specification” respectively. It may not
>> simply be the way you feel, but actually the way it works.
>
>
> Below is the complete section of the article.
>
>
> ago / from now
>
>      Klingon has special words to refer to units of time (such as "day" and
> "year") preceding or following the current time. Words of this type which
> are already well-known are:
>
> {Hu'} days ago
>
> {leS} days from now
>
> {ben} years ago
>
> {nem} years from now
>
>      These words are used with numbers to indicate the number of time units
> ago (days ago, years ago) or time units from now (days from now, years from
> now).
>
>      Thus {wa'Hu'} is <yesterday> (one day before now, one day ago),
> {cha'Hu'} is <day before yesterday> (two days before now, two days ago),
> {wejnem} is <three years from now>, and so on. Another pair of words of this
> type refers to months:
>
> {wen} months ago
>
> {waQ} months from now
>
>      Thus, {loSwen} is <four months ago> and {wa'waQ} is <next month> (one
> month from now). As far as is known, there are no other terms associated
> with specific units of time (in the way {Hu'} and {leS} are associated with
> {jaj} <day>).
>
>      For other units of time (seconds, minutes, hours weeks), two more
> general words are used:
>
> {ret} time period ago
>
> {pIq} time period from now
>
> (One might say that these are associated with the word {poH} <period of
> time>.). These words follow the more specific time units. For example, <two
> minutes ago> is {cha' tup ret}, literally "two minute time-period-ago." <Two
> minutes from now> is {cha' tup pIq}. (It is also possible, though not
> necessary, to use the plural suffixes with the time units if there is more
> than one of them: {cha' tupmey ret}, {cha' tupmey pIq}.)
>
>      The words {ret} and {pIq} could also be used with days, months, and
> years (e.g., {wej jaj ret} <three days ago>, rather than {wejHu'}), but
> utterances of this type are not particularly common, sound a bit archaic,
> and are usually restricted to rather formal settings.
>
>      With longer time periods, such as a century ({vatlh DIS poH}),
> millennium ({SaD DIS poH}), or a period of 10,000 years ("myriad," perhaps)
> ({netlh DIS poH}), the words {ret} or {pIq} may be used in place of {poH},
> e.g., {cha' vatlh DIS poH} <two centuries>, but {cha' vatlh DIS ret} <two
> centuries ago>. The phrase {cha' vatlh ben} would mean "200 years ago." The
> choice of construction depends on what is being emphasized: in this case,
> the total number of centuries (two) or the total number of years (200).
>
>
>
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> SuStel
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