[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: DIvI'

[mayql qunenoS]

Qov:
> I get the idea that you are composing sentences in your head, in
> Greek or English and then translating them into Klingon. Strive to think the
> sentence in Klingon.

yes, you're 100% right ! and this is indeed where the heart of the
problem lies ; at the very fact that the "starting point" is a
sentence in another language, which once it has been formulated,
another process starts, the process of translating it in klingon.

Indeed, if I could only think the sentence in klingon from the
beginning, this would be of great help. And believe it or not, I have
thought of this idea some time way back. But the problem is that in
order for this idea to be applied, someone needs to remember
vocabulary by heart. Unfortunately, until now, the klingon vocabulary
I have actually managed to memorize, is rather limited..

mayqel mop Hurgh qunnoq
peace is a lie there is only passion

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 6:17 PM,  <qov at kli.org> wrote:
>> The problem however is, that still you have to remember the rest of the
>> suffixes, that belong in each respective category.. So, even with this
>> mnemonic things are bound to go south every now and then. Indeed, the
>> only definite solution is practice.
>
> Ah yeah, if you're still working on remembering all the suffixes, no quick
> reminder is going to work.  What you're doing is exactly the right path:
> writing lots of sentences and making the language feel natural for you.   Be
> on the lookout for verbs that make excellent sense and use a few suffixes
> but in a combination you don't always see.  Collect those verbs and make
> then yours in your head. You can hardly work with Klingon for a week without
> knowing that -taH comes before -vIS, and the very weirdness of separating
> those two makes the position of the rare -neS memorable, mojaqmeyvetlh
> chevtaHneSvIS.  Whatever someone says that is memorable or sounds fun to
> you, say and write it again to embed the order: bIHar'eghnISqa'.
> wISay'choHmoHlaH. The proficiency tests ask you to state the number of a
> suffix, which can be helpful. L is the roman numeral for 50 and the
> L-suffixes are type 5.  The suffix -moH is all alone as a type 4 suffix,
> which might make it FOURlorn.
>
> Something you wrote recently about writing a sentence forwards for the first
> time makes me suggest that you pause and write simpler sentences for a
> while.  I get the idea that you are composing sentences in your head, in
> Greek or English and then translating them into Klingon. Strive to think the
> sentence in Klingon. It's harder, so the sentence will be simpler, but I
> think the drive for complexity should come after you have internalized the
> structure of simple sentences.  This is for everyone.  If you write one noun
> to begin an English sentence, e.g. "Klingons ..." your mind is going ahead
> to what the Klingons might be doing.  In Klingon you write "tlhInganpu' ..."
> and your mind should be searching for what is being done to the Klingons, or
> what the Klingons have to do with the setting of the sentence. Those are the
> roles for a noun that comes first in a Klingon sentence.
>
> tlhInganpu' naD voDleH.
>
> tlhInganpu' bej DIvI' negh.
>
> tlhInganpu' DIqIHpu'bogh vIleghqa'.
>
> tlhInganpu' DaSmeyDaq 'Iw ghay jagh mej'aD SIjlu'pu'bogh bu' meqletlh.
>
> I made up each sentence one word at a time, not figuring out what the next
> word would be until I was already typing the previous one.  "What verb could
> be applied to the Klingons? Who or what is a good subject for that verb?"
> Except that I initially thought of mej'aD chevlu'pu'bogh as one unit, and
> finished the sentence by coming up with a weapon, but then reflected on
> physiology and decided that slitting was more effective.
>
> Maybe when the one-sentence story is complete, 'arHa can do
> one-word-at-a-time sentences.   The person who finally decides the sentence
> is over and adds the period should contribute the first word of the next
> sentence. I haven't been following the story, because I want to read it at
> the end in all its glory. Which most likely will involve the destruction of
> the universe, because how else would we know it was over?
>
> - Qov
>
>
>
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