[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tey'be'

[mayql qunenoS]

thank you voragh for sharing these canon sentences !

QISta':
> megh vut tey'be'wI' 'e' nID 'ach SIjwI' SamlaHbe'.
jIH:
> Other that that, I think that you should move the {tey'be'wI'} from
> it's current positition to place it after the {nID} :
> megh vut 'e' nID tey'be'wI' 'ach SIjwI' SamlaHbe'.
SuStel:
> Not necessary. I actually prefer it the way QISta' did it: it gets the subject
> out sooner, so you're not left hanging as to who's doing the action.

this confuses me ; the way I understood the SAO until now, the
sentence preceeding the {'e'} functioned as the object ; and the
subject needed to come last (after the {'e'}). O 'e' VS. Doesn't the
subject always need to be placed last ? The way I analyze the original
sentence, it goes OS 'e' V. ?!?!?!

cpt mIv Hurgh qunnoq

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> mayql qunenoS wrote:
>>> 'aj tey'be' SoHmo' qaHoHbe' 'e' DaHar. tagha'Ha' 'aj vIHoH, ghIq qaHoH
>>> je don't believe that because you are the admiral's cousin I will not
>>> kill you. first I will kill the admiral, then I will kill you too.
>
> SuStel:
>> {tagha'Ha'} might work. I'm always leery of using {-Ha'} on an adverbial
>> we haven't seen it on before, in case it doesn't mean what I think it
>> means.
>>
>> In {paq'batlh} we see {wa'DIch} being used as this kind of "first":
>>
>>     wa'DIch Hegh moratlh
>>     wej SuvwI' SuvtaHvIS
>>     mongDaj DuQlu' 'ej Hegh
>>
>>     ghIq Hegh qanjIt
>>     qeylIS retlhDaq Suv
>>     wa' jagh HoHta' HeghtaHvIS
>>
>>     First, Morath fell,
>>     Fighting three men at once,
>>     A fatal wound in his neck killed him.
>>
>>     Then, Kanjit fell,
>>     Fighting at Kahless's side,
>>     Killing one enemy while he fell.
>>
>> So you could say {wa'DIch 'aj vIHoH, ghIq qaHoH je} "first I kill the
>> admiral, then I kill you too."[]
>
> Okrand used {wa'DIch} - and other ordinal numbers - in this way in another part of paq'batlh (Kahless is speaking):
>
>    SuH
>      tayvam tIQ
>      wIlopchoHjaj
>
>    We are ready,
>      Let us commence
>      This ancient rite.
>
>    wa'DIch nach 'ay'
>      cha'DIch ghIv 'ay'
>      wejDIch burgh 'ay'
>      loSDIch bIng 'ay'
>      vaghDIch Dung 'ay'
>      tagha' tIq Hoch botlh
>      Hochlogh Dat joqtaHjaj
>
>    First Nach, the form of the head,
>      Then Ghiv, the form of the legs and arms,
>      Then Burgh, the form of the stomach,
>      Then Bing, the form of the space above and below,
>      And Dung, the space beside
>      And finally Tiq, the heart and center of all things,
>      May it forever beat, anywhere.
>
> Some have speculated that {tayvam tIQ} "this ancient rite" is in a form of {no' Hol} and so doesn't reflect "current" 24th century practice.
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
>
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