[Tlhingan-hol] vulqa'nganpu'

mayql qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Fri Jan 1 02:48:45 PST 2016


ghItlhpu' De'vID :

> We know that Picard studied Klingon, so he must have copied
> the original Klingon saying.

this is very interesting.. you mean the character picard, or the real
actor ? (whose name I don't remember..)

cpt qunnoQ

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 12:13 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
> lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
>> In English, we sometimes start a sentence with "But", but so far as we know, in Klingon, "but" is always a conjunction combining two sentences to form one longer sentence,
>
> There's at least one canon sentence that just begins with {'ach}:
> {'ach HoD, Hevetlh wIghoSchugh veH tIn wI'el maH'e'}
> "But Captain, that course will take us into the Barrier as well."
> (spoken by Vixis in Star Trek V)
>
> Can anyone think of others, or any sentence beginning with {'ej},
> {pagh}, or another conjunction?
>
> lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
>> and in Klingon you can't have a Sentence As Object construction with {'e'} referring back to a conjoined sentence. The {'e'} refers to the preceding sentence, not the first half of the current sentence.
>
> QeS has already posted a canon counterexample, but even prior to that,
> why do you believe that {'e'} in the second sentence of a compound
> sentence can't refer to the first sentence in that compound sentence?
> What rule(s) are you applying to come to that conclusion?
>
> We all agree that these are two simple sentences:
> {qama'pu' DIHoH}
> {'e' luSov}
>
> So what rule(s) about conjunctions prevents the formation of the
> following compound sentence?
> {qama'pu' DIHoH 'ej 'e' luSov} "We kill prisoners, and they know it."
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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