[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: voqHa'

[mayql qunenoS]

jIH :

> bIQ'a' HeHlIjDaq Sor Hap nobmey lulonlu'law'DI', DavoqHa'nISbej..
> When someone seemingly abandons wooden gifts at your shore, you
> definitely need to distrust him.

SoH :

> You've given an indefinite subject here, so there is no way
> that subject can be the object of the subsequent verb.

..ok, there is no way in ghe'tor I could have thought of that ! thank
you for clarifying this.

> mavoqHa'chuqtaHbe'chugh maQoj'a'?

The way I understand this, it means <if we didn't distrust one
another, would we make war ?>. It is a good way to express the desired
meaning too..

cpt qunnoq
DIHIvbe'chugh.. and so on.. (I'm too tired to write the rest of it)

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:17 PM,  <qov at kli.org> wrote:
>
>
>> From: mayql qunenoS [mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com]
>> reH nobmey qembogh 'elaDya'nganpu''e' tIvoqHa'.
>> Always distrust greeks who bear gifts.
>
> jatlhDI' tlhIngan, jatlh, nobmey qembogh yIrIDnganpu''e' tIvoqQo'.
>
>> bIQ'a' HeHlIjDaq Sor Hap nobmey lulonlu'law'DI', DavoqHa'nISbej..
>> When someone seemingly abandons wooden gifts at your shore, you
>> definitely need to distrust him.
>
> You've given an indefinite subject here, so there is no way that subject can
> be the object of the subsequent verb.  The only antecedent for {DavoqHa'nIS}
> is {Sor Hap nobmey}, so the sentence translates to warn you to distrust the
> gifts. If you want to mistrust the giver, then translate it the way you
> wrote the English: {HeHDaq nobmey lonDI' vay', yIvoqHa'}. "When
> someone/something abandons gifts on the shore, don't trust him/her/it."
> Make it more specific with {HeHDaq nobmey lonDI' vay', ghaH yIvoqHa'}, or
> make it the gifts that aren't trusted with {HeHDaq nobmey lonDI' vay',
> tIvoqHa'}.
> [Robyn Stewart]
>
>> chay' roj wISutlhlaH mavoqHa'chuqtaHvIS ?
>> How are we able to negotiate peace while we are distrusting each other ?
>
> mavoqHa'chuqtaHbe'chugh maQoj'a'?
>
> - Qov
>
>
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