[Tlhingan-hol] {ra'} as verb of saying

[SuStel]

On 2/9/2016 8:51 AM, Lieven wrote:
> Am 09.02.2016 um 14:26 schrieb SuStel:
>>> So this examples makes clear that you can:
>>> a) command a person: {qara': yIjegh}
>>
>> That could be an example of the prefix trick in operation, using the
>> prefix to indicate a second-person indirect object.
>
> I'm not sure it's the same. We have canon from TKD {chay' jura'} "how do
> you command us", where the object is clearly the people recieving the
> command.
>
> To use a second-person indirect object, there should be a direct object
> at least in your mind, like {paq qanob}. {qanob} for itself is more
> ambiguous than {qara'}.

Not at all. Okrand uses the word {qajatlh} to mean "I speak to you," 
where there is no direct object at all. Once we had that, all bets were 
off on {ja'}. All canonical examples prior to that were all elided 
objects, so we couldn't tell whether they were direct or indirect objects.

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