[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: lIng

[seruq]

Other than some strange astronomical event, can a day be not whole?
Perhaps it would be better to use a different word in order to figure this out.
chab.

There is more than one chab on the table.
One is whole, nothing missing, nobody took a piece yet.
Another already has a slice or two taken from it.

Someone comes along and wants to eat.
chab naQ Sop.  He ate the pie which is whole.  He did not eat the one that was missing a slice.  You could also say, naQbogh chab Sop.
chab naQHa' Sop.  He ate the pie which is not whole.  He took the one that already had a slice missing.  You could also say, naQHa'bogh chab Sop.

But those don't mention how much he ate.

chab naQ Hoch Sop.  He ate all of the whole pie.
chab naQHa' Hoch Sop.  He ate all of the partial pie.
chab naQ 'op Sop.  He ate some of the whole pie.  So now we have two partial pies.
chab naQHa' 'op Sop.  He ate some of the partial pie.  So now we still have the whole pie, and the partial pie is a little bit smaller.

Hoch chab naQ Sop.  He ate all the whole pies.  Plural.  There were more than one whole pie.  He ate all the whole ones, and left all the partial ones.
Hoch chab naQ 'op Sop.  He ate some of all the whole pies.  He took a bite from each pie which was whole.
Hoch chab naQHa' Sop.  He ate all the partial pies.  Left the whole pies.


- DloraH




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> From: lojmIttI'wI'nuv <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: lIng
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>I’m just curious if this is a consensus or something that has any canon behind it. I would have thought that {jaj naQ} made sense as “an entire day”. {jaj Hoch} makes equally good sense, so I’m not challenging this as a perfectly fine option.
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>I would have thought that “a day, which is whole”  would be more like {naQbogh jaj}.
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>Not trying to start trouble. I’m honestly seeking clarity. I know that I miss a lot of canon, and I don’t stay up on things as I’m sure I should.
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>pItlh
>lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
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>On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:31 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
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>>On 2/1/2016 11:25 AM, mayql qunenoS wrote:
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>>ok, I can't stop myself..
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>>>unless someone tells me to shut up, I will write random sentences with
>>>the word of the day.
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>>>qaStaHvIS jaj naQ vumqanglaw' 'ach qoqmey law' lInglaHbe'
>>>although he was willing to work the entire day, he was unable to
>>>produce many robots
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>>Use {jaj Hoch} instead of {jaj naQ}. {jaj naQ} means "day which is whole." What is a day that is not whole? An incomplete day? Perhaps a day with an eclipse?
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>>Using {Hoch} after a noun means "all of <noun>."
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>>-- 
>>SuStel
>>http://trimboli.name
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