[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: lIng

[Steven Boozer]

Cf. TKW 33 it is first in noun-noun pair. If the noun following {Hoch} is explicitly plural, it means "all" or "every"; if it is singular, it means "each". [HQ 5.2]

"There are exactly two places that I can think of in Klingon grammar where the plural-marker suffixes are not completely optional: ... When using {Hoch} before a noun, a singular noun implies the meaning "each," and a plural noun implies the meaning "every." This information was revealed by Okrand rather recently." [ghunchu'wI' (date?)]

"The only case we know when it matters whether or not there is actually a plural suffix on a word that is obviously plural from context, is with a construction with {Hoch}.  {Hoch tlhIngan} means ‘every Klingon’ and {Hoch tlhInganpu'} means ‘all the Klingons’."  [Qov (date?)]


We have lots of examples of {Hoch} to study:

la' jaq law' Hoch jaq puS
The commander is boldest of all. TKD

may' ngeb tIv Hoch
Everyone enjoys a mock battle. CK

Hoch vor Dargh wIb
Sour tea cures everything. CK

targhlIj yab tIn law' no'lI' Hoch yabDu' tIn puS
Your targ has a bigger brain than all your ancestors put together! PK

reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS
The fire is always hotter on someone else's face. PK

Hoch DaSopbe'chugh batlh bIHeghbe'
Eat everything or you will die without honor. PK

vISeHmeH Hoch nuHmey Qay!
[Transfer] All weapons to my control. (Clipped) ST5

jonlu'meH wo'maj pop tIn law' Hoch tIn puS
Our Empire's highest bounty has been placed on his head. (ST5 notes)

qIbDaq SuvwI''e' SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS
You would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy. ST5

Hoch 'ebmey tIjon
Capture all opportunities. TKW

loghDaq Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu' chaH Hoch SuvwI'pu''e'
In space, all warriors are cold warriors ("warriors who are ready to fight"). TKW

DujDaj HubtaHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die defending his ship is the hope of every Klingon. TKW

Qu'Daj ta'taHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die in the line of duty is the hope of every Klingon. TKW

wo' toy'taHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die while serving the Empire is the hope of every Klingon. TKW

QI'tomerDaq Heghpu' Hoch
No one survived Khitomer ("Everyone died at Khitomer"). TKW

wa' SuvwI' muHlu'DI', tuHchoH Hoch SuvwI'pu'
The execution of but one warrior brings shame to all. TKW

noH ghoblu'DI' yay quv law' Hoch quv puS
In war there is nothing more honorable than victory. TKW

rut yIHmey ghom Hoch
Everyone encounters tribbles occasionally. TKW

nIn Hoch natlhlu'pu'
All the fuel has been consumed. kgt

Hoch nuH yIqel!
Consider every weapon! (idiom: "Consider every possibility!") KGT

Hoch jaghpu'Daj HoHpu'
He/she has killed all his/her enemies. KGT

Hoch jaghpu'Daj HoHbogh SuvwI' yIvup
"Pity the warrior who slays all his foes." KGT

DujvamDaq tlhIngan nuH tu'lu'bogh pov law' Hoch pov puS
It [IKC Pagh] has the best weapons... S7

tlhIngan qorDu' pong potlh law' Hoch potlh puS
Above all, the Klingon family name is highly valued. S13

Hoch SeH
All rights reserved. (SkyBox Copyright)

tlhIngan wo' yuQmey chovlu'chugh Qo'noS potlh law' Hoch potlh puS
The principal planet of the Klingon Empire, Qo'noS... S27

Hoch tlhIngan DujDaq So'wI' jomlu'
All Klingon vessels are equipped with a cloaking device... S33

tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bIyIn jeSlaHpa' Hoch
Be the first to journey to the 24th century. STX

puqloDwI' le'qu', Hoch jaj choquvmoH
My dearest son, each day you redeem me. (Frasier)

qIbDaq Hoch Hovtay'mey bocharghchugh, yay bochav.
Victory shall be yours if you conquer the systems within the Galaxy. MKE

QaptaHvIS So'wI', Hoch jagh Dujmey DaQotlh.
Disable all enemy ships while cloaked. MKE

Hoch beqpu'vaD 'Iw HIq yInob
Supply blood wine for entire crew. MKE

muptaHvIS tay''eghmoH QeHDaj Hoch
All his rage focussed in one blow  PB

jIlay'DI' reH batlh jIpabchugh Qapla'meywIj Hoch vIta'ta' 'e' DaHar'a'
Did you think that my word of honor would have carried me this far? PB
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HochvaD pung Hutlh qul
flames have no mercy for anyone. PB


From: lojmIttI'wI'nuv [mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 4:16 PM


I’m just curious if this is a consensus or something that has any canon behind it. I would have thought that {jaj naQ} made sense as “an entire day”. {jaj Hoch} makes equally good sense, so I’m not challenging this as a perfectly fine option.

I would have thought that “a day, which is whole”  would be more like {naQbogh jaj}.

Not trying to start trouble. I’m honestly seeking clarity. I know that I miss a lot of canon, and I don’t stay up on things as I’m sure I should.

pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv



On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:31 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name<mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:

On 2/1/2016 11:25 AM, mayql qunenoS wrote:

ok, I can't stop myself..

unless someone tells me to shut up, I will write random sentences with
the word of the day.

qaStaHvIS jaj naQ vumqanglaw' 'ach qoqmey law' lInglaHbe'
although he was willing to work the entire day, he was unable to
produce many robots

Use {jaj Hoch} instead of {jaj naQ}. {jaj naQ} means "day which is whole." What is a day that is not whole? An incomplete day? Perhaps a day with an eclipse?

Using {Hoch} after a noun means "all of <noun>."

--
SuStel
http://trimboli.name

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