[Tlhingan-hol] How would you feel about new Klingon morphemes? [was: New expression: Klingon for "dim sum" revealed‏]

qurgh lungqIj qurgh at wizage.net
Fri Apr 29 08:14:29 PDT 2016


On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:29 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> > The KLI's Learn Klingon group on Facebook has over 1000
> > people in it. More join daily. The KLI website has had nearly
> > 2000 people sign up on it as guests, with several 100 joining
> > as full members.
>
> interesting facts, still the question remains: how many of these
> people actually have the discipline of going through the whole process
> of learning, displaying the discipline and perceiverance needed in
> order to learn ?
> how many start from scratch, and work their way up to reaching at
> least moderate skill ?
>

Some are more active than others. People learn in different ways and at
different rates based on what's going on in their lives. I don't keep track
of what everyone is doing though. Often it's not about discipline though,
it's about confidence.


>
> 2000 people joined the KLI as guests ? I believe you, thank you for
> telling me. However, did they eventually learn ? did they actually
> write in klingon ? the very fact that now they don't exist here any
> more, not even as lurkers speaks for itself. did they migrate to
> facebook ? unless someone tells me that 70-80% of these people
> regularly write there in good klingon, then I will remain unconvinced.
>

Most are guests, many of them do the first few lessons of the course. Some
go on to join fully and keep doing the course. I don't know if they
practice in other places and I don't know how much they learn Klingon. I'm
sure many just want to learn some phrases, while fluency isn't something
they hope to achieve. I suppose we could run a survey at some point and
ask. Lots of ideas, not enough people to make them happen.

The vast majority do not join this list however, nor are they likely to
ever join this list. It's not how they want to study the language, and
frankly this mailing list can be very overwhelming for someone who knows
next to nothing about Klingon. The Facebook group does a better join of
hiding the esoteric academic discussions that can go on for dozens of
replies from the more general discussions, unlike this list that can blast
you with them from the very start. Imagine if you just signed up and the
first thread you get is this conversation... You're going to feel like you
just jumped into the deep end of some massive drama, but all you want to do
is learn a little Klingon.



> I have downloaded every info I could find on quenya, romulan, black
> speech, vulcan and lojban. It is only klingon though that I'm actually
> learning. If I was into facebook, I would join all those groups (if
> they existed there) ; but I wouldn't join them in order to learn. So
> the amount of people joining anywhere doesn't actually prove
> something.
>

It shows enough interest to search for and join a group, and it means that
Klingon language posts will constantly show up in their feeds. The number
of people who actually speak Klingon in the group has increased. Names
start to become familiar as they post more and more. It's a slow gradual
process for most. However, there are many posts each day and the group is
active with discussions.

qurgh
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