[Tlhingan-hol] Easter

[SuStel]

On 4/22/2016 8:40 AM, lojmIttI'wI'nuv wrote:
> I’m completely with you on {lIblI'}. The event is progressing toward 
> an endpoint of being imminent.

That's not what *-lI'* does to the verb. It makes it mean that being 
imminent is ongoing and progressing toward an endpoint. Being imminent 
is not the endpoint.

Compare *vIlI'lI'* /I am transmitting (the data)./ There is no event 
progressing toward an endpoint of transmitting; transmitting is ongoing 
until an endpoint is reached.

> Meanwhile, I find {lIbchoH} to be odd, simply because being imminent 
> already implies a change of state. Something is about to happen. 
> Happening is a change of state.

Being imminent implies a change of state coming in the future, but 
something that is imminent hasn't changed state yet. *lIbchoH* means 
/changes state from not being imminent to being imminent./

> After all, there is a verb {choH} meaning “change”. {choHchoH} is 
> similarly odd. If you begin to change, haven’t you already changed?

Not necessarily. Some changes of state take time to complete. Picture a 
caterpillar changing into a butterfly. First it *choHchoH* /begins to 
change./ Then it *choHlI'* /is in the process of changing./ Finally it 
*choHpu'* /has changed./

> You could argue that {choHchoH} points to the beginning instant of 
> changing, while {choHlI’} can point to the full range of changing out 
> to, but not including, the last instant of change, but my whole point 
> is that pointing to the first instant of change gets to be like the 
> ancient Greek argument about how my hand can’t ever touch this wall 
> because if I move half the distance between my hand’s current position 
> to the wall and repeat this process forever, I will never actually 
> touch the wall.

You're applying metaphysics to a linguistic process. It's not relevant.

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SuStel
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