[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: -Daq, and pronouns with -taH

[Dillon, Kyle]

On a related note, have you seen this article on academia.edu<http://academia.edu> by Nick Nicholas?
http://www.academia.edu/1278393/e_qun_Del_Topic_Focus_and_Copular_in_Klingon

He talks about constructing zero-copula sentences in Klingon (which, by the way, is also how Arabic and Hebrew work). In such sentences, the pronouns start to do the work of copula verbs, even taking on verbal suffixes, as in the examples you gave. But that makes me wonder, to what extent can we add other verb suffixes to pronouns in zero-copula sentences? For example, in the sentence: "Worf was/has been an officer," could we say, yaS 'oHpu' wo'rIv'e' (with a type 7 perfective suffix on the pronoun)? Or how about "Kirk must/needs to be our captain" as HoDma' 'oHnIS qIrq'e' (with a type 2 suffix of necessity on the pronoun)?

Anyway, I'm not really answering your question, I know. My hunch is that in the examples you give, the sentences could be written either way, with the -taH suffix simply emphasizing a continuous action/state.

Kyle

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On Apr 15, 2016, at 9:18 AM, "chransberry at gmail.com<mailto:chransberry at gmail.com>" <chransberry at gmail.com<mailto:chransberry at gmail.com>> wrote:

I am a little confused on the matter of the interaction between -Daq and pronouns with -taH.

I think, from responses to my sentence exercises, that {Saj nujDaq bIHtaH} is preferred over {Saj nujDaq bIH}. So I would say {DujDaq jIHtaH} and {HuDDaq chaHtaH} etc. That's easy enough.

The confusion comes from a sentence I learned before I even joined the list, and a subject line soon after. They weren't confusing then, but now in light of this -taH rule I'm a bit confused. The sentences were {nuqDaq 'oH puchpa''e'?} and {nuqDaq ghaH 'arHa'e'?}

So which is correct:
{nuqDaq SoH?}
or
{nuqDaq SoHtaH?}
?

And which of these is correct:
{DujDaq 'oH De'wI''e'.}
or
{DujDaq 'oHtaH De'wI''e'.}
?

Thanks,
-QISta'

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